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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Dan B. who wrote (67180)	9/18/2005 10:03:06 PM
From: Orcastraiter	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81568

It was publicly reported and being investigated long before the press noticed. Agreed? Who publicly reported Abu Ghraib before the press? What happened at Abu Ghraib was wrong. What happened at Guantanamo was wrong. Beheadings are wrong. Kissenger's Chilean Coup was wrong. Dropping bombs on Baghdad buildings killing hundreds to try to kill Saddam was wrong. Invading Iraq under the guise of WMD, or to get back at Islam, or as part of the war on terror was wrong. Actually Islam will be stronger in a post war Iraq than under Saddam...so it was definitely wrong. A whole lotta a wrong stuff going on. And Bush is one of the biggest wrong doers. Orca

To: Dan B. who wrote (67180)	9/30/2005 1:23:39 AM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

Why the cover up? Why hide things? More Abu Ghraib Photos Ordered Released Associated Press Friday, September 30, 2005; A20 NEW YORK, Sept. 29 -- A federal judge ordered the release Thursday of dozens more pictures of prisoners being abused at Abu Ghraib, rejecting government arguments that the images would provoke terrorists and incite violence against U.S. troops in Iraq. U.S. District Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein said that terrorists "do not need pretexts for their barbarism" and that suppressing the pictures would amount to submitting to blackmail. "Our nation does not surrender to blackmail, and fear of blackmail is not a legally sufficient argument to prevent us from performing a statutory command. Indeed, the freedoms that we champion are as important to our success in Iraq and Afghanistan as the guns and missiles with which our troops are armed," he said. Hellerstein ordered the release of 74 pictures and three videotapes from the Abu Ghraib prison, potentially opening the military up to more embarrassment from a scandal that stirred outrage around the world last year when photos of abuse became public. The photographs covered by Thursday's ruling were taken by a soldier. A military policeman who saw them turned them over to the Army. Some may be duplicates of photos already seen by the public. An appeal of Hellerstein's ruling is expected. Gen. John P. Abizaid, commander of U.S. Central Command, said that releasing the photos would hinder his work against terrorism. The American Civil Liberties Union sought release of the photographs and videotapes as part of an October 2003 lawsuit demanding information on the treatment of detainees in U.S. custody. washingtonpost.com