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To: Don Hurst who wrote (171199)	9/23/2005 4:08:17 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Don, I think you are wrong: <Last time I checked 100% of the Brits and US forces in Iraq were "Foreign Fighters".> I'm sure a few would be Iraqi and would consider themselves Iraqi, though they may be signed up in the USA or UK military services. I'm not sure that one even has to be a citizen to be in the military of the USA or UK. Some New Zealanders serve in the UK armed forces for example. I think some serve in the USA too. But I'm kidding and being picky. Your point is correct. UK and USA forces are foreign fighters. It's also amusing that "all we had to do was wait". But I doubt the waiting game would have worked. Saddam and sons were in control and were perfectly capable of killing any number of opponents. Polls gave Saddam 100% support. There was an attack on Uday, and attempts to run coups, but they tended to end in disaster for the participants. The war since 1990 has been extremely profitable for non-Iraqi oil producers as they have enjoyed higher prices than would have been the case if Iraq was fully producing. Owners of reserves, such as BP Oil, have enjoyed huge windfall profits as their stocks in the ground have zoomed in value. Businesses such as Halliburton and having a LOT of fun. Military equipment suppliers are doing very well. If one was cynical, as I and a colleague were in 1988, expecting "a bullet through the middle east", to raise oil prices, one would think it was all by design. Who benefits? Are the people who benefit associated with those who made the decisions leading to the current situation? They are? Goodness me, what a surprise. Mqurice

To: Don Hurst who wrote (171199)	9/24/2005 5:22:18 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Amazing...94% of the "Foreign Fighters" are Iraqi. Can you provide a valid and credible documentation of this? Unfortunately, I'm not able to document my facts (though I do not doubt them, given their origin). I'll be damned...All we had to do was wait! Yeah great.. wait until Saddam fell so we'd see another Islamic Republic like Iran, except them time militant Wahhabist/Salafist.. financed by the second largest reserves of oil in the world (or possibly now the largest) What a truly wondering plan that would have been. Hawk