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To: altair19 who wrote (47153)9/29/2005 7:05:37 PM
From: Crocodile  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 104157
 
altair~

Great rant. Thanks

lol.. well, i have to comment further now.

i agree that hunting from ATVs isn't hunting at all,
but i've seen it up here and while traveling elsewhere.
bad scene.

as for coyote becoming a nuisance,
we haven't had so much of that,
but the fisher have killed some people's pets
(they were reintroduced to kill porcupines
but they seem to like "other" prey such as cats).
just one of those somewhat failed experiments
in wildlife management. <g>

animals also learn bad habits from humans,
and things can really backfire.

up here, around this time of the year last autumn,
a number of people on one of the canoe route forums
were ranting about how some of the hunting guides
from the lodges where putting out bear bait along
portage routes between some of the lakes well
before hunting season.
a couple of the paddlers managed to intercept
the guides and asked why they would be doing such
a stupid thing --- and get this! it was because
so many of the "guests" fly in and want to bag
a bear in a couple of days and don't want to have
to do any walking, so the guides try to get bear
coming to the portage areas so that they can just
drive up in a boat, let the guys out and they can
get their bear a.s.a.p.
by baiting awhile ahead, they can get the bears
used to coming to the bait so that they aren't wary.
(hope i didn't tell this story last year, but it
still makes me very annoyed as it's a good example
of how we -- collectively speaking of humans --
"program" animals so that they become a nuisance).
In these same areas, bears are now regularly breaking
into cottages even when there are people around
and people are complaining that the bears aren't
wary anymore.

doh!!!

the "other" thing that gets to me is that
(and i have encountered this so often that
it really gets my back up)... many hunters
have this weird idea that something about
being a "hunter" makes them experts on wildlife.
you go to a meeting to discuss solutions to problems
and they snicker at the "naturalists" because *guffaw*
they're just tree-huggers and bird-brains.
very annoying as most of us, at least among my circle,
could hunt rings around these guys because we're
excellent trackers and have spent much of our lives
out in the forests or along rivers.

anyhow, yes, you're quite right -- these are complex
issues and there should be some serious discussions
on how to deal with them.

~ the grumpy croc



To: altair19 who wrote (47153)9/29/2005 7:22:42 PM
From: Crocodile  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 104157
 
altair~

lest you think i'm always this grumpy... (o:

when you were looking through the butterflies
the other day, did you see the big grey moth
after the Monarch photo?

I found it on the screen of my bedroom window
a couple of nights ago.
It's a Catocala of some kind -- one of the
Underwing moths.
Beautiful and quite large. Nice to see
moths still flying at this time of the year.
pbase.com
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and a shot of it on my hand to give some scale
pbase.com

~croc