The is my last available post for the day but I am going to answer your question.
Your question presupposes that the intent was to disappear in Phoenix.
Luster:
"Luster was on a 12-hour excused absence from his residence at the time of his disappearance, so authorities did not begin to search until he failed to report back. "
A good escape plan for someone under house arrest should include an excused absence to give the felon time to disappear. How long did Mr. Velasco have to escape by taking a Saturday flight?
A convicted felon would watch to see if he was under surveillance.
What does a covert operative do when watching to see if he is under surveillance? Does he make a straight line to his destination?
It is quite possible that a convicted felon would actually attempt to flee once he got to San Diego under the assumed name if he wasn't under surveillance.
There are many possible permutations to the story. It is not A OR B.
It looks like you believe just about anything Amr tells you in these manifestos. I doubt Judge Dearie will believe it. The very acts that he committed are enough to give him 20 years even if it was not an attempt to flee.
I will again say to Amr and his lawyers who must be vetting these manifestos that your posting of them does him much more harm than good.
They didn't listen to the Judge when he warned them about their defense so it is unlikely they would heed the warnings of posters here who are telling him it is a mistake.
So, when do we get to read the next manifesto?
Man On The Moon: Feel free to find a case that is EXACTLY like this one. It is necessary to compare and contrast similar incidents. For example, can you imagine the outcry from the Amr crowd if Robert Potter received probation? It would be necessary to look at why he received probation. I am not sure he has been sentenced. He certainly should not receive probation without significant cooperation with the Federal Government. His circumstances are not the EXACT SAME CIRCUMSTANCES. It gives you something to compare. I doubt you will find an EXACT SAME CIRCUMSTANCE as this one. Amr's defense counsel with have to compare apples and oranges.
Lucky Girl: You don't understand what you are reading. Matthew P. Tyson said Waleed was involved in the case. It was all under the umbrella of the Amr V. Matthew case.
Man On The Moon: I guess you don't know how to use paragraphs in your manifestos.
To: just_a_question who wrote (92833)
10/13/2005 1:00:35 PM
From: Man on the moon
of 92860
well that's another thing you, and your brand new SI buds, have wrong, as you and your chums rack up your list
of assumptions, misfires, and other cloaked attacks again Elgindy. No doubt you are one of these guys that are
hell-bent on seeing Elgindy fry into vapor. May somebody have mercy on your soul some day. SI Dave and/or
Bob, just so we can be more clear as to who is double and triple posting under different monikers, I hope you
are helping enforce SI policies through IP backtracking etc. For example, Matthew Tyson, who STILL lives
with his mom, with no real career (any recent cases Matt?), is betting all he can to extract money from
Elgindy's kids so he can pay off his mounds and mounds of debt he has run up over the years through probable
irresponsible spending in SoCal. Then, there are a smattering of other folks who probably are in Ken Breen's
cosa nostra who no doubt have probably been commissioned to deal with Elgindy's recent public posts, and of
course there are the good ole' boys associated with the ashes of former FRAUD stocks that just can't get over
the fact they were BUSTED. The anti-naked shorter wanna be’s who promised death and destruction to all who
even think about naked shorting, are in absolute dis-belief that it still actually still goes on and and that some
things just don’t even change. LOL. Tell ya what folks, if you are gonna pony up the world’s biggest set of
scammy markets where good ole boy mentality has played throughout for well over 100 years, you better be
prepared to get brusised in the process. Dale Baker is a good guy but somewhat like a school boy is getting his
thrills in pushing his foot into Elgindy's neck over and over because Elgindy called him childish names after
Dale left Elgindy's web site as a "long" guy in “blue�. Dale also has years of experience working for the US
government (diplomat) so he likes to tap into that - especially the "inappropiate" things that governments like to
point out in the public sector even though governments themselves are the mosh pits of new born corruption
over and over. Hell, why do you think there are so many “security levels� in the government in the first place?
ROFL. Dale is not the kind of dude to sign up with multiple aliases though, and in all fairness, he probably has
avoided corruption issues pretty well. Bear Down is simply too stoned to know where to point, and being a
potential unindicted conspirator himself, has to walk the line very carefully. Which brings us to all of Elgindy’s
members who for the most part have not said a word here. Can you blame them one bit? LOL of course not
after the carefully crafted web that Breen's court club has setup in this matter. By the way, speaking of Breen,
does he have ties to the NASD or doesn’t he? Just a question. My stance on this whole matter, especially after
seeing the some of the testimony and the weak defense lawyers stumble through it, and all the TOTALLY
INNAPROPIATE references to 9/11 is that Elgindy has served enough time and hardship to last a lifetime on
this matter and should pay whatever fines they agree on, and cut him loose back to his family and to the markets
where he belongs. The prosecution was particularly brutal in this trial, almost seemingly driven by ulterior
forces, revenge, whatever. The jury and even the judge no doubt were probably as confused as heck at times,
the sheer overload of information, with the jury probably receiving no proper stock market orientation. And I
already disregard anybody that responds back to me claiming I insult our justice system, etc. Gimme a friggin
break and go get a reality check. Peel back all the formality of the justice systems in this world, and you have
people, human beings that either understand certain topics or they don’t. Who the heck else has stood up to the
plate in such a bold and well, entertaining matter while stock fraud INCREASES on the horizon? I think it's fair
to say he has learned a few lessons and you can bet he has remorse if those guilty verdicts are TRULY
appropriate. There are much bigger and far more important fish to fry, such as very kind of people Elgindy
targeted. Once a felon, twice a felon, whatever, he never did any true harm to anyone, especially compared to
the many FREAKS of the world that cause physical and inappropriate emotional harm and killing day after
day..only to be bailed out, not caught, etc. Before (and after) Royer showed up and clouded the issues, Elgindy
did the market pretty significant favors, helping the very SEC that is supposed to crack down on market fraud.
Heck certain folks in the SEC relied on him. But that’s government, and the way much of it works. He just
didn’t make the fraudsters to happy about it. And the naive would be surprised how FAR up the ladder fraud
travels.My gut feeling is that most of us have no clue the real stories behind how the markets truky works, and
that the book and movie is pending one day in the future. Tony never asked the SEC for a paycheck, and so
what if the way he got paid was to put up his own money at a huge risk to pull money out of the market in the
process. Most people wouldn't have the guts for this totally legit way to make money. There is a human reality
associated with how much time in jail someone should receive for supposed crimes. We all know how the
system is usually not fair, and there are tons of other cases like Elgindy’s where the end result was not
appropriate for the supposed crime. There is no way in my opinion that Elgindy should be facing years and
years in prison for all this. He is also a father of three young boys that need him more than ever. Evolution does
exists, and people should be given new opportunities where appropiate. I believe this is apporopiate.
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