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To: tejek who wrote (255197)	10/13/2005 6:16:21 PM
From: Taro	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571281

Of course Finland never had any own royalty, the country is but 100 years old!! For 600 years or so Finland was a province of Sweden with their king being the Swedish king until all of that ended 1814 when Russia took over and Sweden got Norway as compensation. What those guys are very proud over - and correctly so - is how they fought off the Russians in WW II. And then of course their recent Nokia driven successful economy. Taro

To: tejek who wrote (255197)	10/14/2005 4:33:59 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571281

Re: For a patriotic American like me, the Finns present a difficult challenge: If we Americans are so rich and so smart, why can't we treat our citizens as well as the Finns treat theirs? ... Finns are enormously proud of their egalitarian tradition. Theirs is the only country in Europe that has never had a king or a homegrown aristocracy. Finland has no private schools or universities, no snooty clubs, no gated communities or compounds where the rich can cut themselves off from... ...wetbacks, darkeys, and other "scroungers". Let's be serious here! Leftists in Western Europe too hail Finland, Sweden, Norway, etc as a role model to demonstrate that the welfare state is compatible with prosperity and economic efficiency. Yet both European and American promoters of the so-called Scandinavian model heedlessly overlook the monolithic nature of Finland's social fabric --I mean, just look at the picture: The Population in Finland Written for Virtual Finland by Arvo Peltonen, Professor, Centre for Tourism Studies, University of Joensuu; 21 November 2002 Finland's population of five million has adapted to life under peripheral conditions in northern Europe. Finns make up 35% of the world's population north of latitude 60ºN. Finland is sparsely populated, with only 17 people per km². The Finns form a distinct linguistic and ethnic group; the original Finno-Ugric population bearing features from both eastern and western Europe. Finland is an interface between east and west. Today, the country is one of Europe's most prosperous. virtual.finland.fi You don't see many blacks, Arabs, Chinese, eh? Five million of blond, blue-eyed clones with the same lifestyle, same language, same religion.... No wonder the Finns have few difficulties in sharing out the GDP/pie among themselves. Like it or not, racial/ethnic cohesiveness matters. Contrary to what macroeconomists and technocrats claim, we can't think of society as an indiscriminate nexus of interchangeable dummies.... The Helsinki stockmarket could rightly be called the Nokia stockmarket --clue: Nokia’s contribution Helsinki Exchange’s share of the global trading in Nokia shares has increased considerably in a couple of years. “It has risen from 37 per cent in 2000 to some 65 per cent at the moment. While the turnover in other stocks has suffered because of uncertainty in the market, Nokia’s volumes have remained at a good level, and this has led to a rise in the proportion of Nokia shares traded compared with the total turnover of the Helsinki Exchanges.” Ruuska adds by way of background information that Nokia accounted for 70 per cent of the total turnover at the beginning of 2003. finnfacts.com As for the other Finnish success story, Linux/Red Hat, well... it's not even incorporated in Finland! Appendix B. A Brief History of Linux and Red Hat What is Linux? Back in August of 1991, a student from Finland began a post to the comp.os.minix newsgroup with the words: Hello everybody out there using minix - I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. The student was Linus Torvalds, and the "hobby" he spoke of eventually became what we know today as Linux. [...] redhat.com Red Hat, Inc. 2600 Meridian Parkway PO Box 13588 DurhamResearch Triangle Park, NCNC 2770927713 US Phone: 919-547-00121-888-733-4281Fax: 919-547-0024 _________________________ All in all, if you wanna have a glimpse of a more likely "model" for the US, look at Brazil: Message 21725838 Message 21725844