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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (22686)	10/14/2005 11:10:46 AM
From: LLCF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

<I don't know who told you that. The OT is the Protestant Bible as much as the Catholic Bible. > I didn't say it wasn't... I simply used Catholic Church teachings to refute your claim about OT vs Jesus teachings. I suppose the myriad of Protestant churches each have their own belief/teachings about the same thing... and also consider it {interpreting the bible} to be one of 'their jobs'. <How on earth do YOU know what contradicts what Jesus says or believes when YOU are the one deciding what is and isn't Divine and Holy in the bible?> I don't have to, nor did I say my opinion was important... the Catholic {and I'm sure many protestant sects as well} Church disagrees with your assertion was my only point... an assertion that you seem to think is very important and know all about. I'm just saying reasonable people disagree on your point. <When you run into contradictions you need to either reconcile them (as fundamentalists attempt unsuccessfully to do to show that the bible is inerrant and infallible), or you can simply cherry pick the things that appear Divinely inspired to you and toss out the rest.> First of all, people don't HAVE to do anything. Any opinion is simply opinion. To beleive one can 'reconcil' everything vs some ultimate truth is simply unbridled ego. That said, I told you what I thought... Jesus teachings {IMO, and Catholic Churches opinion} differ in parts from the OT... and Jesus certainly didn't 'worship' the old Testiment or any thing else other than god {according to his teachings}. So I HAVE reconcilled the concept we're discussing and have my viewpoint... you are welcome to have yours, and they don't need to be the same. Not for nothing, but as an observer, it looks to me like this is a huge deal for you because you're motivated to be able to throw Jesus teachings out for some reason... and linking him to clearly hateful verbage is an easy way to do it. BWTFDIK, I'm not you. <If you were a Christian you would believe it to be Divine teachings> I believe Jesus teachings were divine. <Christians believe that the Bible is the word of God.> Well, I'm "Christian" and I know tons... and none of them, including myself think reading the bible is reading the word of god. God did not write the bible, IMO or the Catholic churches opinion as far as I know.... nor did Jesus ever write anything down as far as I know!! All the books in the NT are credited to 'people' and their version of what Jesus said... of course that's not the same as listening to Jesus... who says it is?? There are zillion of protestant sects {one in which I grew in} and I know a number of them ALSO are of that opinion. In fact.. the catholic church doesn't teach that god actually created the earth in 7 days, did you know that? They believe in {GASP} EVOLUTION! Of course the would disagree on the 'mechanism' of that evolution, but even scientists to that all the time. IMO any theologian is going to have differing opinions on the level of truth of different parts of the bible... for you to say 'Christians think the whole bible is the literal word of god to be taken literally' is not mainstream as far as I know. Hers's something my priest told me one time on the topic of women priests and male priests being married. "I'm not saying I have a problem or disagree with the policy of not having been able to marry, but you must remember... church policies are NOT god given... the church is not god. The church and all it's policies are people and those decisions made by people and can be changed... they are not dictated by god or anything." Now that said... PEOPLE voted to include the Old Testiment in the churches {at that time "the church"} teachings at the council of Nicea. Which books and what versions were to be included in the bible were decided BY PEOPLE. <I don't think that "mythology" equates to "evil conspiracy".> I didn't say that... claiming 'mythology' to be truth however would be less than integrous. I don't understand your assertion that "Christians" have to all 1.) beleive the same thing 2.) have the same opinion on the bible. After all, there are zillions of different churches... and even the bibles differ. DAK