To: greenspirit who wrote (172641 ) 10/17/2005 1:51:38 AM From: epicure Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500 When the American people thought they were threatened by Iraq they became afraid, and Bush manipulated that fear quite effectively, even though it was built on a lot of rubbish. The American people were (imo) turned in to a pack of easily manipulated snivelling cowards, easily duped by the rhetoric of this administration. But when all the errors in this administration's facts started coming out, the American people got angry. People who have been conned often get angry- it's true, they should as angry with themselves as with the con men, but that's not how it works when people get conned. In a democracy I would think the will of the people might matter. Now I never said we should govern by poll, but we should not, in a democracy, ignore the will of the people when it is made manifest about issues in an overwhelming way. Are you suggesting the will of the people should be ignored, except at the points in time you think it shouldn't be? Are you suggesting it should not be taken in to account? When (let's say) 70 % of the country no longer supports a war, then that war was probably a mistake, or some people might reasonably conclude that. In the Vietnam war it was the loss of public support that finally forced the government to stop the bloodshed- and that's probably a good thing, in a democracy. If we lived in a totalitarian state the will of the people wouldn't matter, and they wouldn't ever be allowed to change their minds. I think the people made a mistake with Bush- but there wasn't anything I could do about it at the time- this is a democracy, after all, and the people wanted him - well 51 % of the people who voted wanted him(mistakenly, I thought). Now the people have decided it was a mistake :-) You like the will of the people when it elected Mr. Bush, but you don't seem to like the will of the people quite as much now that they can't stand him, or his war. I find that...interesting.