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To: freechina who wrote (1296)10/21/2005 4:36:21 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Respond to of 218578
 
It's not just the Chinese who can comment on China, it's the REAL Chinese such as Yiwu the Mad and Bubba the Bigot [rabid and racist "Chinese" Siers now called RealMulan in the case of Yiwu the Mad].

Who are the real Chinese you might ask? Well, they do NOT include the likes of Sier Brianh or any of those other capitalist roaders [not that capitalist roads are considered so bad these days in China - they work a lot better than the new, but failing, highways built by the communists].

Just as the Catholic Church kept a list of the excommunicated following heresy trials and held burnings at the stake after a good olde Inquisition, the Holy Realm of Hu conducts such heresy trials and enforces dogma.

Real Chinese are those who think the same and by definition, they all do think the same, especially after some Hu-style propaganda:

< The party also reaffirmed its need to keep a tight grip on the media, pledging to "firmly hold the direction of public opinion and correctly guide public opinion".

"In this regard, the principle that the party controls the media must be upheld, so as to enhance the capability to guide public opinion and gain the initiative of the media work," it said. It also vowed to assume a strong position in creating "positive views" on the internet by stepping up government and self-regulation.
>

Those who don't think the same, or who let on that they don't, are up for re-education.

It's always amusing to see the old suggestion that "Only those involved can know about the situation and can have a valid opinion". Especially when those who do know about the situation and disagree with the current bosses are put beyond the pale, or inside the gaol, and defined as being "Those not directly involved in the situation and therefore cannot comment".

Mqurice

PS I hope you enjoyed your free 5 posts and come back for more.



To: freechina who wrote (1296)10/21/2005 4:43:14 AM
From: elmatador  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218578
 
FC, forget "mainland dissident and a labour activist". Planted there by the IG Metall and AFLC-CIO to hamper China's progress.

>>America’s organized labor which used to support a liberal trade policy. “The leaders of American labor in both the AFL-CIO and the UAW worked strenuously until the late 1960s to convince their constitutiencies than an international economy open to trade and investment served the political and economic interests of the U.S. Radosh, Ronald, American Labor and United States Foreign Policy, Random House, 1969. Gus Tyler, “Labour’s Multinational Pains”, Foreign Policy, no. 12 (Fall 1973), pp.113-32.

But starting on the seventies they started becoming increasingly protectionist. As AFL-CIO unions started favoring import quotas during the 1970s. And for the first time they started being interested in international labor relations. Coincidentally with the time they started feeling the competition from low developing countries. Moreover in the late 1970s the AFL-CIO was supporting the imposition of wider controls with the aims of slowing the growth in the manufacture of high technology goods abroad that might compete with U.S. exports. Vernon, Raymond & Wells Jr., Louis T., Economic Environment of International Business, Englewood Cliffs, Prentice Hall, Inc., 1972. 3rd ed.

Sweden became the first home country to enact comprehensive legislation governing direct investment by domestic firms. This wasn't a concern for workers in other countries. “The major concern of Sweden’s blue collar unions was investment in low-wage countries, notably Finland, Ireland and Portugal. White collar workers feared the export of Swedish technology. Both concerns developed during 1971-73, when there was recession in Sweden and sharp increase in foreign direct investment by Swedish-based firms.” Bergsten, Fred C., Horst T., Moran Theodore H., American Multinationals and American Interests, Washington, D.C., The Brooking Institution, 1978.

Developed countries' unions pushing labor regulations in low developing countries' (LDC's) are more concerned with their own situation at home rather than with LDCs’.

We have to witness the concern with labor in the European regions with lower cost labor is a recent phenomenon. The concern of the northern European countries towards the Spanish and Portuguese labor regulations only started after they saw the prospect of the European integration taking away jobs from them.<<

You should have read Elmat's "book to end all the other books".

1.3 billio, Chinese can't eat human rights. They eat chicken, beef, ground nuts, rice, beef... Let them export their way of poverty.

Once they get rich, then historians can right "The Situation fo the working class Chinese in 2005" and other crap.



To: freechina who wrote (1296)10/21/2005 5:06:03 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 218578
 
hello brian h, your grammar gave you away, frankly.

let's get down to business, shall we?

<<You are correct - an italian can have little insight>>

... Now, come, that wasn't quite what I said, was it? Old habits never die, brian, and putting words in my thoughts is an old habit of yours.

Anyway, I merely pointed out there seems to be little relevancy in what folks say when at such a distance and particularly if they had their mind so made up already by their earlier writings. Am I so wrong? Oops, no, you said I was correct.

<<its like some guy from tobago that was schooled in western colleges and couldn't even speak the language>>

... Now, now, let us not turn to be common and nasty, and untruthful. I speak the language fine, most likely better than you do, but then that fact is understandable, though has little relevancy and is only addressed here because you brought it up.

<<If more had thought that of your grandfather - where would you be today?>>

... I am sure I am not understanding you, perhaps you are just being nasty, but then who cares? Next point. Will you degenerate to making fun of my pet rock as well? Go ahead, show yourself as you really are.

<<I bet you don't fight off the Lice?>>

... Hey, more common denominator? With you as opposition, ala Lee Tung Hui, my heart is at ease ;0)

<<What do you think of Wen and his statement?>>

... I think he is correct.

<<I don't know that I can trust his OBJECTIVITY or that he is going to give me the "correct read?">>

... come on brian, frankly, read back on the matter of "correct read" Message 21809397, exercise your reading skills, please.

<<CHINA: White paper just a big lie, says activists
Dissident Liu Xiaobo blasts official report for glossing over reality of government's failure to protect basic human rights>>

... oh, given that no read satisfies the dissidents who mope around in their disatisfaction with whatever life they have, it goes without saying that they will object to any and everything the officialdom does and doesn't do.

They had long lost objectivity, gave up reality, and so cannot be credible with the more thinking and observant sorts.

Oh, but some folks are in touch with the hard grind of processes and approaches, <<Gao Xinjun, a professor with the China Centre for Comparative Politics and Economics, said China's grass-roots democracy had made significant achievements over the past two decades, but political limitations meant it was moving at a slow pace>> ... instead of mouthing off with mind made up long ago. Oops, I meant like you.

As to ...

<<Pro-democracy activist Lu Banglie , who was beaten by thugs while trying to enter Taishi earlier this month, said the white paper's account of China's grass-roots democracy development was simply a lie.

"The Taishi incident is just a slap on the face of grass-roots democracy because what the villagers tried to do was to recall the chief in accordance with the law," said Mr Lu.>>

... for every Taishi, ruled by local thugs, there are plenty of successfuly villages, and I say that because China is in fact not blowing up.

The Lu Banglie 's of this world has their uses and functions, but astute they are not, and objectivity they are lacking. They do not know what would have happened to them if the clock was turned back by ... oh, 35 years. Let me remind you, the man would never have made it out alive of Taishi or any other city.

So, the improvement is undeniable, the process is on schedule, given the mass of the society, the weight of the population, and the density of the officialdom.

What do you, wise one that you are, suggest as an alternative approach?

The process is long, difficult, but must start, and then must continue.

History is a process, and processes are typically not well dealt with by the sort who always and forever see a snapshot, and an old snapshot at that.

But, such insight on process is precisely what you cannnot accept, becase your mind is already made up, can take in no more, and only enable you to scream at what was, is, and will be.

This screaming is what will entertain on our journey to TeoTwawKi.

Thank you.

Chugs, J