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To: Hope Praytochange who wrote (58153)10/23/2005 9:28:30 AM
From: jttmab  Respond to of 173976
 
kennyboy: get a cup of coffee and read this
I did some serious research on the global warming question... it seems we had ever more severe hurricanes during the 30's and 40's but they were over shadowed by the war at the time... for example, in 1938 a cat 5 hurricane hit as far north as Boston... we had severe drought and the dust bowl, and so on... people were then claiming the world was coming to an end... then we had a period from the 50's to the 90's where the planet cooled and there was all the rage about the coming ice age... now, the planet is warming once again, we're seeing more Atlantic hurricanes, but this is merely part of the overall long term cycle of weather... any argument which blames global warming on American SUV's and U.S. commerce is really short sighted, it only shows a political agenda and loses any credibility as a result...

GZ


Serious research?

2. Busy decade for the United States Atlantic seaboard: The 1890s was one of the busiest decades on record for the Atlantic seaboard of the United States. Four major hurricanes impacted the coast from Georgia northward:

• 1893: Category 3 Sea Islands Hurricane in Georgia and South Carolina and another Category 3 in South Carolina and North Carolina the same year.
• 1898: Category 4 in Georgia
• 1899: Category 3 in North Carolina.

Only the decade of the 1950s had more strong hurricanes making landfall along this part of the coast, going back to 1851.

hpmag.com

NOAA thinks that the 1950's was high and GZ thinks it was low[er]. Now let me think. ... should I take the seriouse research by GZ or should I take the research from NOAA.... Hmmm. What would you do?

See also: webpennys.com

jttmab



To: Hope Praytochange who wrote (58153)10/23/2005 9:48:02 AM
From: jttmab  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 173976
 
...then we had a period from the 50's to the 90's where the planet cooled and there was all the rage about the coming ice age.... GZ

That's interesting.....

cru.uea.ac.uk

The time series shows the combined global land and marine surface temperature record from 1856 to 2004. The year 2004 was the fourth warmest on record, exceeded by 1998, 2002 and 2003. This time series is being compiled jointly by the Climatic Research Unit and the UK Met. Office Hadley Centre.

and ... noaanews.noaa.gov

The new data continue to confirm that the near-surface temperatures during the 20th century have been rising. A long-term temperature increase of 0.06 degrees C per decade (0.11 degrees F per decade) has occurred during the 20th century. There have been two sustained periods of warming, one beginning around 1910 and ending around 1945 (approximately 0.1 degrees C per decade), and the most recent beginning about 1976. Temperatures during the latter period of warming have increased to a rate of 0.2 degrees C/decade. This is comparable to the rates of warming projected by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change to occur during the next century due to anthropogenic effects.

NOAA's values for 1999 include an estimate for global temperatures for December. Updated values for 1999 will be available on Jan. 14, 2000.


I'm having a difficult time looking at the chart from the first link and concluding that the planet cooled from the 50s-90s. NOAA apparently doesn't see it either. Did GZ happen to share with you the data that he accumulated in his serious research? It seems once again that GZ serious research is in conflict with the research of NOAA.

jttmab