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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (144583)	10/26/2005 9:21:40 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793799

And then there are some pink people... I am a very pink person. Rosy complexion. A black friend of mine back in the seventies used to refer to me as pink. He said that "white" was a dumb term, especially for me. <g>

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (144583)	10/26/2005 10:00:50 AM
From: haqihana	Respond to of 793799

tom, Black is a lot better than African American for those from the southern two thirds of the continent, but then we have the Arabs, Israelis, Berbers, and others that are not black, but lighter shades of brown. Some of the Berbers are white, so I don't know exactly what to do but name a group according to the nation, or continent, where they were born. I'm,part celt too, but there are at least 3 branches of the celts, in Irish, Scots, and Welsh. There is a saying in Wales, that the Irish are Welsh, that learned how to swim. :^) I feel that a person should be called in accord with the place he was born. The American Indians that still live, are just plain Americans like the rest of us, and I have a bit of their blood in me too. But, they are not native Americans. They could be called Aborigines, because that word means that they were the people living in a place that was discovered in the times of the ability to record them into history. Native means that their beginnings were in a specific place and they are still there. In fact, the origin of American Indians comes from ancient Mongols.

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (144583)	10/26/2005 3:09:16 PM
From: Neeka	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793799

Can affirmative action be far behind? Astros roster has no black players By BEN WALKER AP BASEBALL WRITER HOUSTON -- Joe Morgan worries about the face of baseball. Watching the World Series, the Hall of Famer is troubled by what he sees. His old team, the Houston Astros, is down 3-0 to the Chicago White Sox, but it's not their lineup that concerns Morgan. It's their makeup. The Astros are the first World Series team in more than a half-century with a roster that doesn't include a single black player. "Of course I noticed it. How could you not?" Morgan said while the Astros took batting practice before the opener in Chicago. "But they're not the only ones. There are two or three teams that didn't have any African-American players this year." Morgan said it's a predicament and a challenge for Major League Baseball. While more players from around the world are making it to the majors - Japan, Korea, for example - the number of blacks is declining. "It's a daunting task to get African-American kids into baseball, and I don't see the trend changing," he said. The last World Series team without a black player was the 1953 New York Yankees. It wasn't until 1955 - eight years after Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier in 1947 - that Elston Howard became the first black in Yankee pinstripes. Black players accounted for just about 9 percent of big league rosters this season. "We know that we have to work to do," Commissioner Bud Selig said Tuesday. "We'll continue to intensify our efforts. I'm very aware, I'm extremely sensitive about it, and I feel badly about it. But we need to get to work to change things." Astros general manager Tim Purpura agrees. "I think it's a huge, huge problem for baseball," he said. "The pool of African-American players just isn't there. And as baseball becomes more college-oriented in its draft, there aren't a lot of players to pick. "The African-American athletes are going into other sports," he said. The most recent survey by the NCAA, taken during the 2003-04 season, showed that only 6 percent of Division I baseball players were black. Half of the men's basketball players were black, as were 44 percent of football players. Houston has a half-dozen Hispanic players - it was the first team to open a baseball academy in Venezuela, about a dozen years ago. Bench coach Cecil Cooper is black. Outfielders Charles Gipson and Charlton Jimerson, both black, played for the Astros during the regular season. The White Sox have three black players on their Series roster: Jermaine Dye, Carl Everett and Willie Harris, along with coaches Tim Raines and Harold Baines. They also have eight Hispanic players and Japanese second baseman Tadahito Iguchi. "We're diverse because we're looking for the best in talent and character," general manager Ken Williams said before the Series started. "It just happened that way. I could care less what the makeup of the club is as long as it works as a whole." Williams is the only black general manager in the majors. A former big league outfielder, he joined the White Sox in 1992 as a scout, confident he could find players in the inner cities. After a year of trying, Williams felt as if he'd failed. Morgan is disturbed by what he's found, too. A two-time NL MVP, Morgan helped Cincinnati win two straight championships. In 1976, along with fellow black teammates Ken Griffey, George Foster and Dan Driessen, the Big Red Machine swept a Yankees team that had 10 black players on its roster. Just 10 years ago, Atlanta and Cleveland each had five black players when they met in the World Series. In 2003, Derek Jeter and the Yankees lost to Florida. Jeter's father is black and his mother is white; the All-Star shortstop has said he considers himself both black and white. "There's a perception among African-American kids that they're not welcome here, that baseball is not for inner-city kids," Morgan said. "It's not true, and I hate that the perception is out there." seattlepi.nwsource.com