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To: freechina who wrote (1672)	10/27/2005 3:15:25 AM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 218135

Freechina what do you think about "Europeans are burning the illegal immigrants!" Message 21829822 Do you think those egalitarians loving Europeans are better than the Chinese?

To: freechina who wrote (1672)	10/27/2005 3:18:04 AM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 218135

Freechina, I disagree with you but I'm the first to defend your right to write your ideas. This is not democracy. Democracy is where the idiots got the upper hand and drawn the voices of reason.

To: freechina who wrote (1672)	10/27/2005 3:30:10 AM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 218135

mistreatment and humiliation of illegal immigrants. Freechina, I think the immigrants should try China!!! Disguised Italian Reporter Unmasks Immigrants Abuse Gatti said the would-be immigrants were living in terrible conditions. (Reuters) CAIRO, October 8, 2005 (IslamOnline.net) – An Italian reporter posing as an illegal immigrant has unmasked routine mistreatment and humiliation of illegal immigrants, a grim reminder of detainees abuse at Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo, a leading British daily reported Saturday, October 8. Disguising as an immigrant from south Mediterranean, L'Espresso magazine reporter Fabrizio Gatti spent eight days at a detention center in the Sicilian island of Lampedusa, said the Guardian. He was forced to sit in liquid sewage and kept for hours in the burning sun. Gatti also recalled that several detainees were made to strip naked and, then, the carabinieri forced them and others to run a gauntlet into a protected area he describes as "the cage". The carabinieri formed into two lines and a line of six foreigners moving into the cage "passes between them and each one gets his ration of slaps. Four carabinieri each deal out four slaps apiece." Gatti estimated that the slapping "filled the air for half an hour," asserting that prisoners were living in terrible conditions with sinks and lavatories blocked, no doors on the cubicles and floors ankle deep in excrement. An abuse scandal exploded onto the world stage on April 29, 2004 after the CBS news network published several graphic photos of US jailers torturing and sexually abusing Iraqi detainees at the Baghdad-based prison. The US notorious detention camp Guantanamo has been at the center of a political storm since Time magazine published a classified logbook detailing shocking torture techniques to extract information from detainees. Pornographic The Italian reporter said one officer amused himself by showing a pornographic video on his mobile telephone to the mainly Muslim detainees in the reception center on the island. A 30-year old Muslim man covered his eyes in order not to lay his eyes on such an immoral movie forbidden by Islam, Gatti recalled. "[This man] is one of those who led the prayers [the day before] in the open-air 'mosque,'" he added. "The carabinieri tears his hands from his eyes and pushes the screen in front of his nose [to force him watch the porn against his will] saying, 'Look - that way you'll learn'," wrote the Italian journalist in his diaries. Leave Italy Lampedusa is a favorite destination for would-be immigrants. The Italian government has always argued that illegal immigrants were brought before court and were deported accordingly, but the reporter said his own detention was entirely arbitrary. In the end, he was transferred to Agrigento, Sicily, where police gave him some documents, two bread rolls and a bottle of water, before driving him to a railway station. There, he and the other migrants with him were told: "You've got five days to get out of Italy. You're free." Alberto di Luca, head of the Italian parliament's immigration committee, and a member of Premier Silvio Berlusconi's governing Forza Italia party, denied the abuse charges. He said the claims in the magazine were "as unfounded as they are defamatory, in respect of the police, the carabinieri and all those who manage the detention center". Investigations into the case by the immigration committee had not revealed any evidence of violence there, he maintained. Italy has previously come under fire from Amnesty International and the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) over conditions at the often overcrowded center, and the government's policy of deportations. Earlier this year, the interior ministers of Britain, France, Italy, Spain and Germany - Group of Five - agreed to organize joint flights to deport illegal immigrants. The G5 was set up in 2003 to battle rising illegal immigration, with the European Commission estimating that around half a million illegal immigrants flock to Europe each year in search of a better life. The Schengen agreement allows free movement of people between the 15 European country signatories through border control removal.

To: freechina who wrote (1672)	10/27/2005 3:34:58 AM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 218135

<<what am I not getting?>> ... that all may not go according to plan, and instead, go in line with history, where all lost something, and debtors lost everything ... key concepts and words: inflation of everything we need, deflation of everything we have, explosion, recession, stagnation, implosion, desperation, dissipation, depression, confiscation, redistribution, evaporation, revolution ... rebirth in any case, i think the interest rate resets will cause more problems than already discounted, and we will not have to wait too long to find out, such is the beauty of liquidity deluge, that the diapers of borrows go wet btw, i will bet you i am more free than you are, and i cannot think of anything i want to say that i am not saying, in broad day light ... such is money rock and freedom mountain chugs, j