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To: Keith Feral who wrote (173835)	11/1/2005 1:41:04 PM
From: geode00	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Where are the Weapons of Mass Destruction? Where are they? Bush giggled about not finding them in the Oval Office while soldiers and marines were dying in Iraq. Where are the Weapons of Mass Destruction which is what we went to Iraq for. Where are they? You don't get away with either THE BIG LIE or even medium lies. We went to Iraq because of the imminent threat of WMDs. So where are those WMDs and where is the accountability for the lies about WMDs including those about Niger Yellowcake. Where are the WMDs? Where? The Iraqi 'government' wants to partition itself. In fact, the only people who appear to want to keep Iraq together are...THE SUNNIS. Do you get the irony here?

To: Keith Feral who wrote (173835)	11/1/2005 4:16:03 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I think the only way we are going to pull out of this hole is to expose Muslim cultures for the intolerant traditions they practice. They are masters of deception and identity in so many ways to escape justice. We have to drag these countires into the 21 st century one by one to establish a level playing field. We certainly can't give Iran the luxury of nuclear weapons as long as they live in a psychotic universe of self determination against their enemies. I get uncomfortable painting all people with religious sterotypes... I think it's just a matter of where certain cultures are in their development of a sophisticated civilization.. After all, were we to go back a mere three or four hundred years, we'd see the SAME kind of religious intolerance exhibited by the Catholic church when it was DIRECTLY involved in political policy and Rulers came to the Vatican seeking confirmation of their "divine right" to rule.. There were quite a few Christian fanatics... And let's not forget the original religious fanatics, the Jewish Zealots, who used exactly the same tactics that many of the current Islamic Militants are using to terrorize people into submission (assassinations, targeting innocent populations.. ) There is going to come a point where we are going to be required to tell the Iraqi government "you're on your own now".. One of the lessons of "Vietnamization" is that we probably didn't place enough of the burden for their self-defense upon the S. Vietnamese government, or holding the leadership accountable for their corruption. I'm all for "tough love" when it comes to exposing this corruption and letting the Iraqi people hold their leaders accountable. That's the way their learn to live togther.. And if they can't do that, then we'll have no recourse but to let them duke it out amongst themselves until they get so tired of fighting they forget what their fighting about.. Hawk