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To: Think4Yourself who wrote (40449)	11/1/2005 11:20:56 PM
From: mishedlo	Respond to of 116555

California households fall $73,810 short in income needed to purchase home Who is producing such rubbish and obviously biased crap talk? Why it is none other than The California Association of Realtors. car.org California households, with a median household income of $54,140, are $73,810 short of the $127,950 qualifying income needed to purchase a median-priced home at $545,910 in California, according to the California Association of REALTORS® (C.A.R.) Homebuyer Income Gap Index™ (HIGI) report for the third quarter of 2005, released today. The Association's Homebuyer Income Gap Index™ is a quarterly analysis of the difference between the median household income and the qualifying income needed to purchase a median-priced, single-family home for the state and for select regions within the state. The HIGI is calculated with the same assumptions used to generate C.A.R.’s monthly Housing Affordability Index (HAI): a 20 percent downpayment and a monthly payment for principal, interest, taxes and insurance that is no more than 30 percent of a household’s income. ... ...

To: Think4Yourself who wrote (40449)	11/2/2005 3:09:34 AM
From: Elroy Jetson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116555

A society's response during a plague reflects the true values of that society, not the polite values they pay lip service to, but their real values. During the 1918 flu pandemic America did not become militarized. (For that matter, even our involvement in WW-I didn't involve our military, but a voluntary "American Expeditionary Force." a thin fiction but it reflected the American values of the time) Mayors in many cities prohibited public gatherings for many months, which could be enforced by the local police but there are no accounts where the police were necessary. In 1918 America was America, the nation people around the world looked to in admiration. Today, America is no longer that America. Gore Vidal suggests that America and Russia became parallel "National Security States" after WW-II. America and Russia despising and fearful of each other -- yet as a result, oddly sharing parallel developments and becoming more similar to each other in an eerie way with each passing year. I think this is largely true. I fear that you are correct that the society America has degenerated into over time will have a very different and militarized response to a pandemic. Yet Black Markets have existed even in societies where the penalty is death. Greed and need are powerful forces which cannot be eradicated merely by a police state with the latest gadgets enforced by the death penalty. .