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To: Brumar89 who wrote (173980)	11/2/2005 10:10:51 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 281500

Got a URL?

To: Brumar89 who wrote (173980)	11/2/2005 10:15:48 PM
From: geode00	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The rightwing DID embrace Saddam. Do you not remember anything of history? The rightwing embraced Saddam even when it knew he was gassing people and being a murderous, thuggish dictator.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (173980)	11/28/2005 1:36:55 AM
From: tsigprofit	Respond to of 281500

Where did I ever say anything like that? And what makes you think I'm a leftist? That's overly simplistic. I believe in a strong military. I just don't believe in starting wars for no reason, and having no plan to fight them, all the while ignoring our own military advisors that told us this would never work. Call me practical, not leftist. Saddam was an evil dictator. There are others in this world. Did that give us the right to be at war with Iraq for over 15 years now - 1990-2006...and counting?? Or to kill over 20,000 Iraqi civilians, and pollute their land with DU munitions? Who gave us this right? The UN? I don't think so. We just did it - in a pre-emptive attack, because we knew they had mass stockpiles of WMDs, and were very, very wrong. But we are there now. What do you suggest we do? Stay the course? How long? As long as it takes... If that's 10 years and costs 50,000 US lives from this point, are you willing to pay that price? And what do we get for it if we do? How is it our business to interfere in their country once we got rid of Saddam, and found no WMDs? And what of the other world threats while Bush fiddles in Iraq?? >> Well, one SI leftist who thought Saddam was great was Thomas M - he posted that Saddam was a good progressive ruler and that's why we made trouble for him. Other SI leftwingers (in denial), tsigprofit and partytime, claimed Saddam could have been an ally against AQ if we'd just embraced him.