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To: Taro who wrote (259820)	11/14/2005 4:43:40 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572171

Re: You are confused, Ted. Nobody in the US had a clue about any "Holocaust" back in 1941. I'm afraid YOU are the clueless, if not confused, one.... American authorities were well aware of Nazi concentration camps ever since the first one, Dachau, was inaugurated in March 1933 --that is, a couple of months after Hitler was appointed Reich Chancellor... The dirty little secret, however, was that Nazism's first camp prisoners were Communists, Socialists, unionists, and other sociopolitical "deviants", that is, the very kind of people US elites had no sympathy for, either. What? Was FDR going to urge his fellow citizens to wage war against Nazi Germany to rescue... the poor Communists and homosexuals?!? ROFL! Not on your life! Remember, Taro, at the time, the US itself was but a Jim-Crow Gulag --not the beacon of democracy it was cracked up to be afterwards.... Of course, after the war, the US spinmeisters had to cook up another story, an acceptable rationalization of WWII as a humanitarian, democratic crusade to crush the Nazi monster and save the Jews --only the Jews.... DACHAU Established in March 1933, the Dachau concentration camp was the first regular concentration camp established by the Nazis. Heinrich Himmler, in his capacity as police president of Munich, officially described the camp as "the first concentration camp for political prisoners." It was located on the grounds of an abandoned munitions factory near the northeastern part of the town of Dachau, about 10 miles northwest of Munich in southern Germany. During the first year, the camp held about 4,800 prisoners and by 1937 the number had risen to 13,260. Initially the internees consisted primarily of German Communists, Social Democrats, and other political opponents of the Nazi regime. Over time, other groups were also interned at Dachau such as Jehovah's Witnesses, Roma (Gypsies), homosexuals, as well as "asocials" and repeat criminals. During the early years relatively few Jews were interned in Dachau and then usually because they belonged to one of the above groups or had completed prison sentences after being convicted for violating the Nuremberg Laws of 1935. In early 1937, the SS, using prisoner labor, initiated construction of a large complex of buildings on the grounds of the original camp. Prisoners were forced to do this work, starting with the destruction of the old munitions factory, under terrible conditions. The construction was officially completed in mid-August 1938 and the camp remained essentially unchanged until 1945. Dachau thus remained in operation for the entire period of the Third Reich. [...] ushmm.org

To: Taro who wrote (259820)	11/14/2005 5:11:20 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572171

Follow-up to my post #259904. My previous read: CONJURING HITLER How Britain and America Made the Third Reich Guido Giacomo Preparata Description Nazism is usually depicted as the outcome of political blunders and unique economic factors: we are told that it could not be prevented, and that it will never be repeated. In this explosive book, Guido Giacomo Preparata shows that the truth is very different: using meticulous economic analysis, he demonstrates that Hitler's extraordinary rise to power was in fact facilitated -- and eventually financed -- by the British and American political classes during the decade following World War I. Through a close analysis of events in the Third Reich, Preparata unveils a startling history of Anglo-American geopolitical interests in the early twentieth century. He explains that Britain, still clinging to its empire, was terrified of an alliance forming between Germany and Russia. He shows how the UK, through the Bank of England, came to exercise control over Weimar Germany and how Anglo-American financial support for Hitler enabled the Nazis to seize power. This controversial study shows that Nazism was not regarded as an aberration: for the British and American establishment of the time, it was regarded as a convenient way of destabilising Europe and driving Germany into conflict with Stalinist Russia, thus preventing the formation of any rival continental power block. Guido Giacomo Preparata lays bare the economic forces at play in the Third Reich, and identifies the key players in the British and American establishment who aided Hitler's meteoric rise. Author Details Guido Giacomo Preparata is Assistant Professor of Political Economy at the University of Washington. Born in Boston, Massachusetts, raised in the USA, France and Italy, he completed his PhD in Political Economy and Economic History at the University of Southern California in 1998. Table of Contents List of Figures A Chronology of Germany’s Undoing, 1900-1945 Preface 1. Introductory: The Eurasian Embrace. Laying Siege to Germany with World War One, 1900-1918. 2. The Veblenian Prophecy: From the Councils to Versailles by Way of Russian Fratricide, 1919-1920. 3. The Meltdown & the Geopolitical Correctness of Mein Kampf: Between the Kapp and the Beerhall Putsch, 1920-1923 4. ‘Death on the Installment Plan’, Whereby Governor Norman Came to Pace the Damnation of Europe, 1924-1933 5. The Reich on the Marble Cliffs. Fire, Legerdemain and Mummery all the Way to Barbarossa, 1933-1941 6. Conclusions Notes Bibliography Index plutobooks.com

To: Taro who wrote (259820)	11/18/2005 5:25:10 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1572171

...there was a refusal to raise the quota on Jewish immigration even as Americans learned of the Holocaust as early as 1941 You are confused, Ted. Nobody in the US had a clue about any "Holocaust" back in 1941. Where did you find that BS? Most likely on some Zionist propaganda web site of your preference, right? Give us a link, please. "After 1942, when Roosevelt was made aware, by Rabbi Stephen Wise, the Polish envoy Jan Karski and others, of the Nazi extermination of the Jews, he refused to allow any systematic attempt to rescue European Jewish refugees and bring them to the U.S. In May 1943 he wrote to Cordell Hull (whose wife was Jewish): "I do not think we can do other than strictly comply with the present immigration laws." In January 1944, however, Morgenthau succeeded in persuading Roosevelt to allow the creation of a War Refugee Board in the Treasury Department. This allowed an increasing number of Jews to enter the U.S. in 1944 and 1945. By this time, however only a fragment of the European Jewish communities had survived Hitler's Holocaust. In any case after 1945 the focus of Jewish aspirations shifted from migration to the U.S. to settlement in Palestine, where the Zionist movement hoped to create a Jewish state. But Roosevelt was also opposed to this idea. When he met King Ibn Saud of Saudi Arabia in February 1945, he assured him he did not support a Jewish state in Palestine. He suggested that since the Nazis had killed three million Polish Jews, there should now be plenty of room in Poland to resettle all the Jewish refugees. President Roosevelt's attitudes towards Americans of Japanese origin, African heritage and Jewish faith remain in striking contrast with the generosity of spirit he displayed, and the social liberalism he practiced in other realms. en.wikipedia.org