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To: Dale Baker who wrote (5476)	11/18/2005 9:45:00 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 541914

Pick your poison. The only sensible and moral thing I can think of to do right now is stick it out until Iraq has the wherewithal to give it a go. That would be trained forces and government infrastructure. OUr continued presence while that happens may or may not be making things worse. But abandoning Iraq now is just not acceptable IMO. We need to give it enough time for at least minimally viable institutions to be in place and that takes a certain amount of time.

To: Dale Baker who wrote (5476)	11/20/2005 5:34:15 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 541914

The pressure will be for a firm schedule of troop withdrawals. So I caught out of the corner of one eye something late Friday about a grandstanding showdown on Iraq. The population of my house just doubled and is about to triple, and the big TV has been commandeered for X-Box. You know, it's not easy to keep up with politics when you can only catch it on the fly. So I don't know what the talking heads are saying. But if I may pundify just for a moment, I think it was actually brilliant street theater by the Republicans. Wonder what brainiac thought of it. Because only 3 people were willing to vote for immediate withdrawal -- which is incredible. It suggests to me that the Ionesco wing of the Democrat party is rather tiny, and she's far from radical herself. [Edit: I see Ionesco is not in favor of immediate withdrawal, so maybe I should say the Tiger Paw wing of the Democrat party?] Does anybody know what Howard Dean thinks about Friday's vote?