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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (715203)	11/26/2005 5:16:58 PM
From: BEEF JERKEY	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

There seems to be a real meaness to America nowadays. I thought torture was a "Saddam" value - in fact I thought that was one of the reasons for the invasion of Iraq - that he tortured people. Now you got the CIA with secret prisons and Cheney cheerleading for the use of torture there. It just doesn't seem right.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (715203)	11/26/2005 5:18:27 PM
From: ManyMoose	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Yeah, well your celebration sounds to me more like obeisance to the country where you got that website. I have no confidence that the story is even true, and if it is, your declaration about being proud to be an American is hollow indeed.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (715203)	11/26/2005 5:25:51 PM
From: Geoff Altman	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

This has nothing to do with the post I asked you to read.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (715203)	11/27/2005 7:39:46 AM
From: Geoff Altman	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Chin, the problem with you is that you read a bunch of socialist news sites and deem all that you read as fact without the slightest logical consideration if it's real or made up BS. You suck up all the left wing conspiracy theories with reckless abandon and refuse to believe information that comes from the horses mouth. This tells me that it's senseless to try and reason with you further. I've noticed though, since I was countering and beating you at every assertion that you've been making about the Iraq war that you've conveniently lost interest in pursuing the debate....... Typical of the left wing, when losing, create as many diversionary issues to try and derail, then run like hell....but whatever you do, don't stay and fight since you might be proven wrong.