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To: epicure who wrote (7121)	12/17/2005 9:44:05 AM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 540987

Maybe in 2008 a presidential candidate will say, "The presidency is not an imperial office. A president must lead in times of crisis, but never forget that he is answerable to the U.S. Constitution and the American people who voted for him. Upholding and defending the Constitution means never letting it fall to the wayside when lesser motives and lesser principles try to prevail. We are better than that as a country. We must be. We are the United States of America." That's what patriotism is all about to me, not flags and banners.

To: epicure who wrote (7121)	12/17/2005 10:14:20 AM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 540987

I think that once the rhetoric and emotion is stripped away, this will be the basic issue. Some people believe that security and war can demand and justify a stretching of the law and would rather give up certain things to ensure safety, while others would prefer to take the risks and not compromise any of our rights. They will see this as an abuse of power, a criminal rather than a legitimate and legal executive act. I hope we can avoid too much of the rhetoric and stick to issues here.