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To: Lane3 who wrote (7188)	12/17/2005 12:33:43 PM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541337

Like I said, if people want to change the Constitution, then amend it to fit the modern age. Until then, people who swear to uphold and defend it can't claim they are "unduly" bound by its provisions. As for what information is prized, I prize mine very highly. I am a citizen with rights. I prize its privacy and integrity as deeply as I prize anything else about being American. My fundamental rights are not negotiable by people who have no right to contravene them absent a judicial warrant. The "balance" is up to them to change via a constitutional process. It simply isn't the prerogative of the executive to act on their own. Just like it isn't their prerogative to strip citizens of their constitutional rights based on an arbitrary executive decree. I suspect I could find some constitutional protections that you WOULDN'T want to have stripped for national security reasons. But once you let the executive start rewriting the rules on their own, your protections are gone. Poof.

To: Lane3 who wrote (7188)	12/17/2005 12:42:27 PM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541337

So it seems reasonable to me that we (the country, not the thread) debate the appropriate balance. It is very unlikely bombers are ever going to take over the country. They could in the very worst case do some damage onetime. On the other hand, if brownshirts take over, like they did in Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, Red Guard China, whatever in North Korea, fundamentalist Iran - its not that easy to get rid of them. Its not a mushroom cloud, but its probably far worse.