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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Orcastraiter who wrote (719153)12/20/2005 8:29:28 PM
From: JBTFD  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
An argument could be made that people having contact with terrorists is not sufficient. I wonder if Tim Mcvey would have been caught by such a net. Or what about Columbine? If there was enough surveilence that might have been prevented.

It comes down to privacy vs safety. I think our society is being scared in to accepting less privacy in the name of safety.



To: Orcastraiter who wrote (719153)12/20/2005 10:19:29 PM
From: Srexley  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
"she"

I'm a "he" in case you did not know.

"where do you want to split the hair?"

On the side of protecting Americans, obviously. Why you guys want to "split the hair" to side against our President is beyond me. You sum up my concern perfectly.

"I say that if you have evidence of terrorism on either end of the phone, that's good enough."

So do I.

"All you need now is the warrant"

I don't think you do. I think it will be shown that the constitutional power the President sited was interpreted properly and no law was broken. I am sure the American public will back his decision.

"you cannot give Bush approval"

Bush does not need my approval, your approval, and in this case he does not need fisa approval.

"then the law is clear...you need Judicial review and approval."

Not clear at all. The law sites only domestic spying, and these involve international terrorists that we know about. And no law supersedes the constitution, which is where the President's power is derived.