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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: sea_urchin who wrote (9544)	12/21/2005 6:09:32 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

Re: Meanwhile, whites live in SA, it's their country, they are not immigrants. That's just your opinion... Your ancestors came from Europe, period. I'm sure you'll be able to sift through Edinburgh's or Manchester's city archives and dig up official records pertaining to "Mr and Mrs Sennett". Just because your forefathers forcibly displaced the natives and settled in Jo'burg a mere 200 years ago doesn't clinch it, Searle.... As for those whom you dismiss as "late immigrants", you're right insofar as illegals are concerned yet wrong as far as second- and third-generation youths are concerned. The former, mind you, are mercilessly, routinely, rounded up by Spain's, France's, and Italy's border patrols, herded into "concentration camps" and eventually shipped back to their African wastelands... For that matter, there was a fuss in Belgium last week over the decision by the Office des Etrangers to deny refugee status to a Mongol mother and her son --both were whisked away to Schiphol, in neighboring Holland, to board a plane to Ulan Bator-- to the rage and fury of a local grassroot support committee that wanted both to stay in Belgium.() Anyway, my point is that most Europeans of African or Arab descent are as entitled to consider themselves as full-fledged Europeans as you are to fancy yourself "African".... Gus () theperiscope.blogs.com

To: sea_urchin who wrote (9544)	12/21/2005 6:34:28 AM
From: Crimson Ghost	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 22250

AJC poll indicates that 70% of U.S. Jews oppose the war in Iraq By: Shlomo Shamir, Haaretz Correspondent on: 20.12.2005 [21:57 ] (109 reads) (2010 bytes) [c] NEW YORK - Approximately 70 percent of Jews in the United States oppose the war in Iraq, compared to 28 percent who support the war, according to a poll conducted by the American Jewish Committee. The poll indicates that 60 percent of U.S. Jews do not agree with the manner in which the U.S. government is conducting the war on terror. The poll, to be published Wednesday, includes a special section on questions examining U.S. Jews' attitudes on relations with Israel. According to the poll, 59 percent of Jews in the U.S. have never visited Israel; 20 percent of those polled have visited Israel once, and another 20 percent said they had visited Israel more than once. Of those who have never visited Israel, 49 percent cited the cost of the flight as the main reason, while 20 percent said security concerns were the reason, and 18 percent said they had never visited Israel due to "lack of interest." Some 79 percent of those polled said that concern for Israel is a main part of their lives as Jews, while 19 percent disagreed with this statement. According to the poll, 36 percent of American Jews consider themselves very close to Israel, while 41 percent regarded themselves as somewhat close to Israel; 5 percent of respondents said they feel very distant from Israel. When asked whether they are more optimistic regarding chances of peace between Israel and the Palestinians compared to last year, 21 percent said they are more optimistic, while 19 percent said they were less optimistic; 59 percent of those polled said their opinion had not changed in the past year. Some 32 percent of those polled said they were Conservative Jews, 29 percent regarded themselves as Reform, 10 percent as Orthodox and 2 percent as Reconstructionist. Only 16 percent of those polled said they were Republicans, while 54 percent said they were Democrats; 29 percent said they were Independents. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ LINK: haaretzdaily.com SENT: by jouna