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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (9545)	12/21/2005 6:58:52 AM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 22250

Gus > Anyway, my point is that most Europeans of African or Arab descent are as entitled to consider themselves as full-fledged Europeans as you are to fancy yourself "African".... My family has been in SA for five generations. Sure we came from Europe originally but now we have no connection with Europe. Anyway, the argument is not racial but socio-economic. The whites in SA are moaning because of discriminatory affirmative action. Likewise the former Algerians in France although there it is not enforced by law. msnbc.msn.com >>The French riots have been similarly misunderstood. Simply put, they were not primarily cultural in impulse, but socioeconomic. Far from being an uprising of Muslims or immigrants against secular French authorities, they were a protest by angry, excluded and unemployed youth, the vast majority born in France and essentially non-religious in their world view. Older Muslims tried hard to suppress the violence (after all, it was their cars being burned) and French religious leaders went so far as to issue a fatwa against the demonstrators. The young men wore no religious or ethnic symbols, and they spoke the language of French republicanism—respect, dignity, community.<< > Your ancestors came from Europe, period. Trying to dig out peoples' race from their origins is exactly what Hitler did -- and you are trying to emulate him -- and also the ANC. By the way, I wonder where you came from? In SA, as I said, there is allegedly, a non-racist Constitution so wherever I came from is irrelevant. I am a South African citizen. Period. info.gov.za info.gov.za >>Equality Everyone is equal before the law and has the right to equal protection and benefit of the law. Equality includes the full and equal enjoyment of all rights and freedoms. To promote the achievement of equality, legislative and other measures designed to protect or advance persons, or categories of persons, disadvantaged by unfair discrimination may be taken.*** The state may not unfairly discriminate directly or indirectly against anyone on one or more grounds, including race, gender, sex, pregnancy, marital status, ethnic or social origin, colour, sexual orientation, age, disability, religion, conscience, belief, culture, language and birth. 1 No person may unfairly discriminate directly or indirectly against anyone on one or more grounds in terms of subsection (3). National legislation must be enacted to prevent or prohibit unfair discrimination.<< **This is what I'm talking about -- arbitrary legal discrimination within the facade of democracy. The situation concerning disaffected former Algerians in France is nothing like this. In fact, the arbitrary discrimination against whites in SA resembles, to some extent but not all, the discrimination against Palestinians in Israel.