To: arun gera who wrote (2823 ) 12/24/2005 8:34:39 AM From: TobagoJack Respond to of 217847 arun, <<It will be very difficult for China to stay the leader when it gets there>> you seem to concede that the trajectory and destination is a given, only the longevity is in doubt. firstly, it is not exactly clear to me what getting there means, since the world was, is and will always be divided into the haves and have nots, and in this new age where military conquest is clearly out of the question as demo-ed by the utter impotency of regular armies of coalition of the foolish, then 'getting there' can only mean owning stuff and living well, i guess, if so, the trajectory and the basic impetus behind the trajectory matters So, the overseas chinese, as a group, if a nation, is perhaps on average the wealthiest group bar none, of approximately 55 million in population ... the magic sauce is not electoral anything, and in fact a genuinely honest electoral democracy is probably the fastest route to communism. the secret sauce is (a) property rights, (b) capitalism, and (c) the choice to adopt and adapt (a) and (b) so that all is moving in the correct direction. If so, then I think I need not say more about trajectory. As to staying 'there', it is a matter of whether the folks after getting there is inclined to over-extend, interfere, and generally doing the wrong things, or whether they choose to simply enjoy commerce for commerce's sake, the pure joy of moving forward. This is a matter dictated by intrinsic inclination, and on this I also do not need to say more. The equation of TeoTwawKi is clear to me, not clouded by spin and fluff, and other truly unimportant things. The issue important, and on this I am a bit uncertain, is where, who, what, when the inequality engendered in the world's march towards teotwawki will cause a blow up. Will it be Paris, Beijing, New Orleans, or Bombay. And here, again, it all depends of intrinsic inclinations and innate tendencies. Let's watch. Chugs, J