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To: TimF who wrote (266329)	12/28/2005 11:59:00 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574997

Most of those allegations are unfounded Which allocations specifically are unfounded. " In earlier incidents there where a number of cases where groups of Lebanese men did gang rape young Australian women" Than you say "What's true is that in 2002 some Lebanese gang members raped several white women" Well apparently that one wasn't unfounded. So I assume your saying this didn't happen - " Telling them that they were sluts because of the fact that they where wearing normal modern bathing suits rather than covering themselves up as the Lebanese men thought they should, and threatening them with rape." Is that right? Yes. What's ironic is that the PM of AU kept repeating over and over again that the riots had nothing to do with racism while we were seeing on TV a guy with White Power written over his belly. Why is it when its another race, a darker race, the crime becomes much more serious, warranting a 55 year sentence as opposed to a 30 year sentence for a white man? That's like saying "have you stopped beating your wife". The question contains an assumption that I would dispute. I don't think it is a more serious crime when someone of another race, or specifically a "darker" race commits a rape. The harsher penalties were apparently because it was gang rape. Even if they were for racial reasons I think we would both agree that the race of the perp doesn't change the seriousness of the crime (and shouldn't change the seriousness of the punishment. There have been any number of gang rapes in AU. Never had the rapists gotten sentences of 55 years. It was a first. Australia, like most Anglo Saxon cultures, has had a history of racism. I think you should substitute "like most cultures" rather than "like most Anglo Saxon cultures". Racism hardly relies on "Anglo Saxon" decent. I think that Anglo Saxon cultures have a particular penchant for racism but I agree there is racism in other cultures as well. Try to imagine what would have happened had two white Australians assaulted two Lebanese lifeguards and the Lebanese decided to riot like the white Aussies did. First, it would never happen in a million years The Australians are hardly the first people to riot or violently protest in response to rapes, They were not rioting because of the rapes. The rapes happened three years ago. let alone in response to crime and abuse in general. I don't think you have any solid basis for your "it would never happen in a million years" comment. You are saying that you think the Lebanese would riot if two Australians assault two Lebanese lifeguards with the way race relations are in present day AU? You think its reasonable because two lifeguards got assaulted that people should demand that Australia be only for white people and that everyone should conform to what those white people think is the way to exist? The irony of all of this is that both groups, the Lebanese and the blue collar Aussies, are the victims of the ruling class who long ago decided to open up AU immigration laws in the hopest of encouraging cheaper labor to move AU. Guess what.........it worked. Some of the Lebanese might be victims of rioters or of racism in general but I don't see how they are victims of the Australian government because the government allowed them to immigrate. The gov't was the vehicle for the increased immigration but why do you think it was encouraged when Australia has had a history of rejecting non Anglo Saxon cultures? Its the same reason why immigration is encouraged in this country and why there is not significant pressure to curtail illegal immigration. Cheap labor is at the bottom of it. And its the wealthy who have the need for cheap labor.