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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: J.B.C. who wrote (50338)1/1/2006 3:41:56 PM
From: American Spirit  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 93284
 
STOP YOUR BS. Bush "won" by 527 votes in Florida in 2000 after his brother used Choicepoint to cut 57,700 mainly black legal voters off the rolls. Gore was tricked. It wasn't about hanging chads or even re-counts it was about not letting those 57,700 vote in the first place. If only 1.5% of those voters had been allowed to, Gore would be president.

This is all well-documented, though the networks never dared to run with it. It was written up in the Miami Herald.

Bush did not voter roll cut in Florida in 2004 because the NAACP sued to stop it. Instead, they concentrated their gross cheating in Ohio. Either way, they swiped both elections. Kerry has recently filed two lawsuits in Ohio. Unlike Gore, he isn't going to let them get away with it. But the days of cheating to swipe elections are over. No more Diebold paperless hacked machines, no more voter roll scrubbing and no more GOP dirty tricks.

And also, the DEmocrats did not cheat in any of those elections. That's just plain old bald-faced lies. You don't have one iota of evidence and you know it.



To: J.B.C. who wrote (50338)1/1/2006 11:23:40 PM
From: ThirdEye  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 93284
 
Both of you guys are out to lunch.

AS is wrong because he claims 57000 voters were "disenfranchised" in Florida in 2000. The fact is Katherine Harris asked Database Technologies (DBT), which has since become a subsidiary of Choicepoint, to scrub the Florida rolls of felons. In doing so, DBT cast a wide net and incorrectly included, which they ADMITTED, up to 20000 names of people who had a legal right to vote. The fact that Florida law prohibits ex-felons from voting does not mean they were disenfranchised since it was not against the law to prevent them from voting.

However, Florida is one of only 13 states that had such a law then and there are even fewer now. There's hardly anyone left in this country who thinks it's OK to prevent anyone ever convicted of a felony from EVER voting again.

Florida notified most of these residents that they could not vote. The procedures to reinstate the right to vote for those residents who were incorrectly swept up in the DBT dragnet were onerous, time consuming, and such a serious drag on the resources of local registration boards that most of the legasl voters were unable to correct the error before the election, many of whom discovering that they could not vote only when they showed up at the polls on election day.

So in that sense, maybe as many as 20,000 people WERE disenfranchised in Florida in2000.

Oh, guess what? The CEO of DBT was a Texan who contributed heavily to Bush's campaign.

JBC, you are the bigger idiot here because state hearings, federal election commission hearings and NAACP investigations all occurred, where numerous people who fell into this blatantly partisan trap DID tesify. You're just too lazy to look it up.