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To: Bilow who wrote (179114)	1/4/2006 2:42:24 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

When Saddam was in power, we did not have a terrorism problem in Iraq. Invading the place has basically showed the world that we're a bit of a paper tiger. So let's see... If we permit Al Qai'da to control Iraq, then there won't be a terror problem either... Because essentially both the Ba'thists and Al Qai'da EXCEL at terrorizing their domestic populations. Certainly the Ba'thist had 30 years to perfect their internal terrorism, including the Fedeyeen Saddam, the Republican Guard (Saddam's version of the SS), Al-Amn al-Khas, the Special Security Organization (SSO). But the WTC attackers were mostly Saudis, without a single Iraqi But ALL OF THEM were Salafist/Wahabbists.. And they are the same kind of elements we're CURRENTLY fighting in Iraq. At least, that's the way they publicly present themselves, as Islamic Militants intent on creating a Islamo-Fascist state, where the means of production and that vast oil wealth that is possessed, will provide them the financial, economic, and political means to further their Global Jihad. The enemy is waging a war against us, not a criminal seige. They want to destroy us, not just rob or extort us. Thus, it will require BOTH military and police efforts to conquer them. Btw, I do plan on watching Munich when I have the chance. But as I recall, those agents were Mossad. The Mossad can HARDLY be called a "police agency" anymore than the CIA can be compared to the FBI. Finally, I didn't see Cheney... But I did see Rumsfield. He got right out and shook hands with our folks and everyone seemed very pleased to meet him. Hawk

To: Bilow who wrote (179114)	1/4/2006 4:44:29 PM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 281500

"Look, our problem with safety is not due to a weakness of our military nor is it related to a strength of other country's militaries. Our weakness is our vulnerability to terror. The only real way to combat it is with police efforts (including spooks of course). Go watch the movie "Munich"." You think the israelis didnt wiretap? If you want to call it policing thats fine with me but its sort of akin to extra-curricular policing if you get my drift.