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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (179277)	1/6/2006 11:14:37 AM
From: neolib	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

There are many Sunnis who recognize that a Jihadist Islamic Republic will not be in their best interests. Sure, but the Shia are not in their best interests either. But right now, with the Shi'a government still infiltrated with Badr Corps and SCIRI elements, with strong links to Iran, the Sunnis will continue to support those groups that best oppose Iranian domination of Iraq. They just won the last election. They are not going away. The Iraqi army & police we are building up are going to institutionalize this. Do you actually think the power of SCIRI is headed lower in the foreseeable future? The last thing this world needs is a precedent to be set for jingoistic nationalism. I'm more interested in achieving a nationalism that establishes a national identity that transends religious and ethnic differences. I agree, but realism and idealism are two very different things. Ideally, we would have had a 3 week war to overthrow Saddam, and then peace and prosperity would have come to Iraq. Didn't work out that way, for obvious reasons. Ideally the Iraqis would have voted for a secular, nationalistic platform on Dec 15. They didn't, again for very obvious reasons. Pretending otherwise does not help IMO. I think Iraq will drift towards a three state solution, again for very obvious reasons, but with much pain and suffering because we don't tackle it head on. In the end it is going to go there anyway. It is for all of these above reasons that I have definite reservations about the creation of a Palestinian state that denies citizenship to non-Palestinians. I agree, but the case with Israel is similar. Israel allows some non Jewish citizenship, but the whole point of a Palestinian state is to make sure they don't get majority Israeli citizenship. There is no dancing around that point. The fact that the Palestinians return the complement pushed to the limit is hardly surprising. The US, including many religious conservatives (same group that strongly backs the war in Iraq) have no problem supporting an ethnic/religious state in Israel, so whats the problem in Iraq?