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To: Whitebeard who wrote (154039)1/7/2006 2:14:17 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793846
 
I see a real hatred of Evangelicals by people who don't know any. Seculars don't know Christians. How can they hate them?

I suppose that was a rhetorical question but, if you want to know, I can explain it to you.

There are three reasons, I think.

The first is fundamentalism to the extent that evangelicals are fundamentalist. I realize that all aren't.

Fundamentalism in any religion is a problem because it's absolutist in its anti-modernity. It's hard to communicate or collaborate with absolutists because they think they own truth. Anti-modernity is a problem in that for our country to be strong we must advance. So it's a collegiality issue and a progress issue.

The second is evangelism, itself. Evangelicals are, by definition, interpersonally religious, expansively religious. Non-evangelicals are quiet about their religiosity, even consider it a private matter. Unfortunately this expansiveness is a requirement of and inherent to that element of Christianity. So evangelicals are a problem for those who don't want other people's religion (or even their own religion) in their faces. Or on the public agenda. So it's a peace and quiet and independence issue.

The third is this failure to differentiate, this bogus accusation that others hate Christians, that is so infuriating, when what makes them crazy is only a subset of Christianity. It's the evangelicals that draw the acrimony for the above reasons. Christianity is OK. So it's a control issue.

And if they do, why don't they hate the other religions equally, Islam, etc.?

I think that the folks who "hate" evangelicals would have a problem with the equivalent from any other religion, the Islamic counterpart, for example. Those who would impose their religious beliefs on you, particularly when you find them unhealthy, and who are at the gates will always provoke a negative reaction. Unfortunately, evangelicals can't back off and still be evangelicals.



To: Whitebeard who wrote (154039)1/7/2006 3:54:04 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793846
 
Seculars don't know Christians. How can they hate them? And if they do, why don't they hate the other religions equally, Islam, etc.?

One of the greatest of our "Infidels" was Robert Green Ingersoll,(August 11, 1833 – July 21, 1899). I have read almost all his works, which are mainly the transcripts of his delivered speeches. In Christianity, you are taught to say, "hate the sin, not the sinner." His attitude was the same toward Christians. "Hate the beliefs, not the practitioners." And he did it with good will and humor. en.wikipedia.org

Secular hatred of Christianity in the West is PC. Hatred of the other religions is not PC. That is the reason for the left's attitude.

BTW, I would enjoy having this kind of "comparative religion" discussion here if we can observe two rules.

1) General statements. No bible quotes.

2) No personal attacks.



To: Whitebeard who wrote (154039)1/8/2006 2:05:09 PM
From: Tom Clarke  Respond to of 793846
 
I see a real hatred of Evangelicals by people who don't know any

I think they're operating on a set of assumptions. They might not know any Evangelicals personally, but they have a stereotype firmly planted in their minds.