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To: elmatador who wrote (3198)	1/10/2006 12:45:50 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 219497

Also, ElM, apart from the real issues which you describe, such as how to use the industrial revolution and now the cyber revolution to best effect, one has to keep in mind the peacock's tail. He didn't get that to escape from a cat or to help him fly. He got that because the girls liked it. Human girls like guys on the shaper end of the spectrum. That is a very powerful driving force. They like it because it gets them the goodies they want and the babies they want. Therefore, humans have brains as big as a peacock's tail. The theory that the dull are outbreeding the smart is false. The theorists omit those who don't get to breed. Or, they simply made up data. Where's the data? The fact is, as shown in the Flynn Effect, that the smart are increasing, just as the peacock's tail did. But the human brain is not just for show to the girls, it really does help do well in the absurdly complex and impossibly challenging world in which we all flounder. Mqurice

To: elmatador who wrote (3198)	1/10/2006 1:45:01 PM
From: Gib Bogle	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 219497

"Correct me, please, if I'm wrong: You imply that the less intelligent are weeded out, resulting in a higher pool of more intelligent people who survive." This is what Maurice is saying - he thinks the average intelligence is increasing. I'm arguing against him. I'm saying that although there always used to be selection pressure for intelligence (more intelligent people produced more offspring that survived) this is no longer the case. To be more precise, I'm saying that this isn't the case in the countries where infant mortality is no longer significant. This includes NZ, Europe, USA, etc. I'm not sure about Latin America (you might be able to comment), India, Middle East. Maybe in Africa there is still selection pressure for intelligence.