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To: puborectalis who wrote (26907)	1/15/2006 2:34:33 AM
From: bob zagorin	Respond to of 57684

no doubt you're right as this issue is no way black and white. may i recommend the new website of former oregon gov. john kitzhaber (a former emergency room dr. himself). he just ruled out another bid for gov to launch a non-partisan state and national movement to reform our health care system.. www.ArchimedesMovement.org

To: puborectalis who wrote (26907)	1/15/2006 11:11:34 AM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 57684

ER physicians have to order many unnecessary tests to appease the shyster attorneys. Its a big scam with a bunch of groups siphoning money off the US GDP and calling it "healthcare"- attourneys are one, drug companies another (probably the worst), insurance companies. I take a common drug for women called synthroid. When my prescription ran out in the 90s, and I was working at a startup so I had one of those "catastrophic care" medical insurance policies, my dr. at UCSF insisted that I go through this entire ordeal just to get a prescription and drugs that I had taken for years, and all of this came out of my pocket due to the healthcare coverage I had. This required : 2 appts with my Dr (MD)- one to schedule a blood test, and one for her to review it with me and give me the prescription, the blood work itself and then finally the drugs from Walgreens. Total cost to me: over $650. For drugs that are sold otc for $20 in most countries of the world. This was something I put up with -grudgingly- 5 years ago. Not today. My neighbor wanted to try some Rogaine. For him to get Rogaine in the US, same deal. Appt with dr, prescription and then overpriced "drug" itself. Why does anyone need a prescription for Rogaine? Or RetinA? Or Nicotine patches? These were things US consumers had to deal with prior to globalization and now they don't. Laws to "protect consumers" from the overseas medical systems are being ignored. I just think it is prudent to be aware of this when looking at what these medical technology companies are really worth. I don't think the size of the market for a specialty medical device is that large.