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To: Crabbe who wrote (3481)	1/16/2006 9:20:18 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217917

i am now on turbo ferry to liberty island macau. the trip will require showing of id, and the forms in 3 languages, so that we are able to exercise freedom and fill same in whatever language we know best - very civilized, and impinging on none i too have not had feel that my government, what there is of it, ever impinged on my freedom nor do i consider my wife a scourge <<I have the RIGHT to own firearms. Do you?>> the bit of nonsense about guns is just that, as your freedom, or rather more accurately, right to bear arms, impacts the freedom of others around you to feel safer further, as many times, you confuse rights with freedom, demonstrating clearly that you have lost the natural understanding of what freedom is but, as it may, should i wish to bear arms, i am at the liberty to buy whatever national documents available for sale (most are), and do the deed there, while still keeping my birthright. you, otoh, cannot exercise that freedom with the same outcome <,two official languages>> buzzer. it is not that two official languages are preferred over one, but that our laws are clear, minimalist, and works for all, rich and poor, bar none, in a very civilized manner <<religion>> ...i have freedom of faith, and to boot, i am not bothered by folks wishing to imposed their faith on me ... no supreme court need to arbitrate, because the issue of contention never arises, given our system, judged to be superior, and recognized by all except a few, amongst the knowledgeable, as in those likely to read more <<You see TJ with out these freedoms economic freedom is worthless because with the whim of a government that does not give these freedoms, your economic freedom can disappear in an instant.>> you are wrong, how else does hk remain 12 years #1 if our system does not inherently guard our freedoms, 9 slots ahead of where you are? << Why are you required to show ID to travel to other parts of the PRC if you have these great freedoms?>> ... which part of the one country two systems scheme do you not understand? chugs, j

To: Crabbe who wrote (3481)	1/17/2006 4:16:04 AM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217917

Slow down a bit! You need to put your drink inside a bag, else is the fridge bar at the hotel room. An able bodied man can't swim in a hotel pool if a life guard is not there. The nation-state such as the US and European democracies, took all freedoms from its citizens and doled out rights for this and rights for that. I lived and worked in many countries where there is indidividual freedoms (you can do whatever you bloody want) with people who came from countries where there are only rights but no freedoms. They screwed up and got in trouble often. The first trouble they got was to crash their cars: They can't function in countries where you can gorge alcohol and drive and you are the only one responsible for the consequences. I because I was born in a country where everything is allowed in a personal level but miss the freedoms that HK have) can handle any situation in those countries where individual freedom is allowed. Poorer countries usually have more individual freedom because the state can't afford the civil servants Big Brother apparatus watching you. How much costs all those state troopers, cars, radios, fuel, dispatch people, legal apparatus...: A lot! How much does it cost those radars, helicopters and cops watching over speeding in highways? Less money for the state to watch us means more freedom, hence, poorer countries have more individual freedoms. Now with the regulations after 9/11 you have the right to travlre by air... The difference between us who have freedom, is the difference between the animals who roam free on a farm in the ones confined and castrated.