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To: Jamey who wrote (24111)1/17/2006 5:17:01 PM
From: sea_urchin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81190
 
James > Gore says Bush wiretapping could be an impeachable offense.

Sure, but who is going to impeach him? The Republicans won't and the Democrats are too disunited and function, together with the War Party, as if the US is a one party nation. Anyway, W will justify wiretapping, as well as his litany of other crimes and war crimes, by saying everything he did was essential because of the War on Terrorism.

Of course, the biggest crime of all, namely 9/11, has now been swept under the carpet and conveniently forgotten -- aided and abetted by the Democrats. Likewise the illegal invasion of Iraq which was carried out in pursuance of phony and fictitious information manufactured by the neocons for the purpose. And I'm not even talking about incarceration without due process or torture -- both of which are crimes against humanity. Indeed, wiretapping, is the most trivial of all and yet it seems to be the "transgression" which excites the politicians the most -- I presume because it's their phones which are being tapped.

> the American values we hold most dear have been placed at serious risk by the unprecedented claims of the Administration to a truly breathtaking expansion of executive power.

That is clear to anyone who cares to look but the truth is, as was discussed in the article I posted, the Democrats are as complicit as the Republicans in the destruction of traditional American values. One can hardly expect a bunch of foxes to guard the henhouse.

> many of us have come here to Constitution Hall to sound an alarm and call upon our fellow citizens to put aside partisan differences and join with us in demanding that our Constitution be defended and preserved.

That's pure bullshit. It is, in fact, the "bipartisanship" which has led to the Patriot Act and it is that "bipartisanship" which will continue to destroy Constitutional values as the elites of both parties see fit. IMO, it's only when the Democrats act as their name implies, namely as the party of We the People, and get far away from all that cozy stuff with the Republicans, that something beneficial towards the restoration of Constitutional values might happen.

But I don't see that. Instead, and despite all the flowery and optimistic words to the contrary, I see the incipient dictatorship proceeding apace and fascism/corporatism becoming the national ethos. It is even conceivable that ultimately a "home-grown" fundamentalist, religious dogma could replace the Constitution altogether.



To: Jamey who wrote (24111)1/17/2006 5:52:16 PM
From: sea_urchin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81190
 
James > Gore says Bush wiretapping could be an impeachable offense.(2)

nytimes.com

>>Two leading civil rights groups plan to file lawsuits Tuesday against the Bush administration over its domestic spying program to determine whether the operation was used to monitor 10 defense lawyers, journalists, scholars, political activists and other Americans with ties to the Middle East.

The two lawsuits, which are being filed separately by the American Civil Liberties Union in Federal District Court in Detroit and the Center for Constitutional Rights in Federal District Court in Manhattan, are the first major court challenges to the eavesdropping program.

Mr. Goodman [legal director for the Center for Constitutional Rights], acknowledged that in persuading a federal judge to intervene, "politically, it's a difficult case to make."

He added: "We recognize that it's extremely difficult for a court to stand up to a president, particularly a president who is determined to extend his power beyond anything envisioned by the founding fathers. That takes courage."<<

Any bets that they'll find a judge with "courage"?



To: Jamey who wrote (24111)2/27/2006 9:20:36 PM
From: sea_urchin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81190
 
James > Gore has, for the last three years, been a prophet of saving our democracy and restoring out Constitution

It seems he had better start with his own party.

brickburner.blogs.com

>>....there’s a reason this Republican administration is so damn bullet proof -- nobody from the opposition party is taking aim and pulling the trigger.”

And that’s why the Dems are just as culpable in all that has transpired since Bush took office in 2000. They aren’t just a part of the problem -- the Democrats are the problem.

The Democrats aren’t just letting the Republicans get away with murder, however, some of them are also reaping the benefits of the Bush wars. We constantly hear about Dick Cheney’s ties to Halliburton and how his ex-company is making bundles off US contracts in Iraq. But what we don’t hear about is how Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein and her husband are also making tons of money off the “war on terror”.

The wishy-washy senator now claims Bush misled her leading up to the invasion of Iraq. I don’t think she’s being honest with us though, there may have been other reasons she helped sell Bush’s lies. According to The Center for Public Integrity, Senator Feinstein’s husband Richard Blum has racked in millions of dollars from Perini, a civil infrastructure construction company, of which the billionaire investor wheels 75 percent of the voting share.

And that’s exactly why the Bush administration is so darn bullet-proof. The Democratic leadership in Washington is just as crooked and just as callous. <<