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To: Lane3 who wrote (9654)	1/24/2006 2:07:40 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541490

I think you are quite mistaken. Red lining still goes on- although it has to be under the table, because discrimination is so verboten. Take the lid off, and it's coming back. Businesses near Oakland would LOVE to refuse blacks service. Do they have a reason for that? Sure- there are some irresponsible folks from Oakland who give the rest of its citizens a bad name- but do people believe the name, and do they generalize? You bet. Would they like to refuse service? I'm sure a good percentage of stores would- and there is strength in numbers. If they got a critical mass together, I'm sure they could salve their consciences about the whole thing. They'd have other folks to talk to, who would reinforce their views.

To: Lane3 who wrote (9654)	1/24/2006 2:11:05 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541490

I know what it was like. I wonder why you would think otherwise. Perhaps you live in a sheltered area and don't see the many ongoing attempts to discriminate. Take for instance my own state of Texas where the legislature fell all over itself to ban gays from forming some sort of union even though poll after poll shows that most people here don't care doodly-squat about the issue. That relentless miniority keeps badgering them like a kid on the candy isle. TP

To: Lane3 who wrote (9654)	1/24/2006 2:57:58 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 541490

Its not just that the culture and expectations of people have changed, although that is a huge chunk of it. Its also that 50 years ago there where laws requiring bigoted discrimination by businesses in certain places or situations. Even then a number of businesses had to be forced to discriminate, because the discrimination cost them money. afroamhistory.about.com Even if the civil rights laws were modified there is just about 0% chance of the return of the Jim Crow laws. Tim