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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: AK2004 who wrote (9879)	1/27/2006 5:58:10 AM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 22250

AK2004 > you surely mean to say that your ancestors stole the land from native africans, don't you? That's a debatable point. While some of the land was undoubtedly stolen and taken by force, a great deal was not. In fact, the land was not populated because, in many parts, the original people were nomads. My ancestors were not involved in theft. They settled in towns which were already established and paid for their property. > you criticize Zionists who seek to return to their origin Yes, I do, because they have returned but they are not satisfied with what they have. Furthermore, I maintain it is their obligation to settle/make peace/call it what you will with the Palestinians not the other way around. I also have said that the manner of the "return" was against the precepts of the Jewish religion, which it was. > Even now you criticize Africans and African Americans who have ties to Africa while the only ties to Africa you had is all the misery you and your ancestors inflicted on natives of the land. I criticise them where criticism is due as, for example, the leaders who steal the money from their poor and indigent. I don't criticise African-Americans per se, only that I have more connection to Africa than many of them do and they are called Africans and I am not allowed to be. My ancestors inflicted no misery on anyone and neither did I. You have no right to make that statement because you have no proof of what you say. If you are an American, I don't suggest that you or your ancestors murdered the Indians or imported slaves, even though that is in the American history, because I know nothing about you. > I was actually referring to the Christ conspiracy <gggg> Frankly, I don't know what you mean nor do I see the humor. You seem to be making the point that because Christ was apparently a Jew, Christianity was a Jewish conspiracy. > both Islam and Christianity are derivatives of Judaism. See my point? Yes, they are but they don't respect one another because of it, in fact, they hate one another. The exclusivity of belief is more important than anything they have in common. And that is why I don't like religion. I regard it as a recipe for war, not peace. > I am Jew indeed but I am not religious. There's no need to be. In fact, the religion is now redundant. Without recourse to the Messiah or the religion, but force of arms, the Jews acquired the Promised Land. There is now a new religion -- guns and money. > on the contrary, you have the right to believe in anything you like or nothing at all. Thank you, and I do. > Just don't push me ..... It's you who came upon me.