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To: orkrious who wrote (52662)2/4/2006 6:29:19 PM
From: shades  Respond to of 110194
 
Can you give me a multi year or multi decade chart of those spreads so I can have a broader perspective?



To: orkrious who wrote (52662)2/4/2006 6:35:48 PM
From: shades  Respond to of 110194
 
Report omits work for Boeing California plants
By Dominic Gates

Seattle Times aerospace reporter

A Pentagon report made public Friday could spell the end of plane-making in California because it includes no further orders for Boeing's large C-17 transport aircraft, built in Long Beach.

The document, called the Quadrennial Defense Review, also has implications for the Boeing 767, built in Everett.

It says the Air Force should not buy any E-10 battle management command and control aircraft, which would have been based on the 767.

The report provides the assessment of the Pentagon's senior leadership, including the joint chiefs of staff and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, of the current state of the military and the direction it needs to take. Rumsfeld's cover letter describes the report as a "roadmap for change."

Its conclusions must still go through the federal budget process, but they carry great weight.

The report recommends that the Air Force make do with the 180 C-17s now on order. It extends a slim hope of revisiting the decision later by advising that C-17 tooling be moved into storage "to preserve the option of procuring additional C-17s."

Boeing executives have said consistently that without further orders the C-17 line will close in spring 2008. About 6,500 Boeing employees work on the line in Long Beach.

The E-10 is similar to an Airborne Warning and Control System or AWACS airplane but would have a large hump on its underbelly instead of a dome on top.

Northrop Grumman is the lead contractor. The study recommends funding a "technology demonstrator" for the E-10 — probably a reference to continued work on the high-tech radar systems involved — but cancels aircraft production.

Though relatively few E-10s would have been produced, cutting the program means one less reason to continue the 767 production line.




The 767's future is already doubtful after the collapse of the Air Force refueling-tanker contract. The review contains only an unspecific recommendation that the Pentagon "recapitalize the tanker fleet."

Speaking to reporters in Orlando, Fla., Thursday, Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne said the Air Force may seek formal bids as early as this fall in a new tanker competition that would pit Boeing against Airbus parent EADS (European Aeronautic Defence and Space).

seattletimes.nwsource.com

How are those 6500 employees gonna afford that high priced CALI real estate if they have no job???



To: orkrious who wrote (52662)2/4/2006 6:41:57 PM
From: shades  Respond to of 110194
 
Could you live without being "in the loop" orkrious?

icwales.icnetwork.co.uk

'The internet ... it's like a drug!' warning Feb 4 2006

Paul Rowland, Western Mail

DITCHING the internet would be like kicking a drug addiction because we have become so hooked on computers, a psychologist claims today.

Our reliance on the internet is so strong that suddenly being deprived of access could lead to "emotional trauma and panic" for as long as a month, according to business psychologist Felix Economakis.

The warning came on the day computer users all over the world braced themselves against the latest internet virus, Nyxem-E, which threatened to delete crucial files on thousands of machines around the world.

The virus was known to have infiltrated more than 300,000 computers in January, and was triggered to start deleting files from infected PCs. And while safeguards against the internet worm meant its impact was ultimately limited, internet traffic was significantly slowed for much of the day while major service providers guarded against potential damage.

Nyxem-E, which is also known by the names Blackworm, MyWife, Kama Sutra, Grew and CME-24, is the latest in a line of viruses which have threatened to bring carnage to the internet. As well as creating mayhem online, it has also resurrected fears about the doomsday scenario of the internet being crippled for an extended period by a major virus assault, which, according to Mr Economakis, could have devastating results for computer users.

"It would be like a withdrawal from an addiction," he said.

"We are so wired to communicate this way that if it's taken away from us, the body suffers a lot of emotional trauma.

"Initially there would be emotional distress and panic as people realise they can't function in the same way without all the information. When there's any open loop left open in our system, the body looks for closure and keeps sending distress signals until that loop is closed.

"In that case people would resort to phoning a lot, and not in the way we used to before the days of the internet. We'd be calling all the time, and we'd be getting very upset if we weren't able to get through.

"Anything that we get addicted to will give us withdrawal symptoms if it's taken away, and it often takes at least a month for the body to start feeling comfortable again.

"People have so many communications devices these days, even when they're on holiday, because they're so used to feeling like they're in the loop, and that something catastrophic will happen if they're not. Before the days of the internet we all found it far easier to switch off."

Welsh business expert Dylan Jones-Evans said that while the internet had become "enormously important", he would expect the business community to adapt to a major web breakdown.

But he claimed that internet communications had created "a 24/7 mentality" with people expected to deal with work matters at all times of day.

He added, "It's become enormously important to the way that people do business. What you find is that, particularly with the use of email, businesses and individuals expect instant responses to queries and comments, and that seems to have changed the way that people live and do business, whether that's for good or bad.

"The issue with email is that organisations now have this 24/7 mentality.

"There's no downtime any more."


I saw a movie once called HEAT and robert deniro said never get around ANYTHING you can't drop in 15 seconds - could anyone here live the rest of thier life and not be connected to the rest of us Borg in the loop?



To: orkrious who wrote (52662)2/7/2006 7:15:42 PM
From: ild  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
Kasriel short TOL
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