To: Elroy who wrote (272592 ) 2/8/2006 4:35:33 AM From: tejek Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575191 Whether you or I agree or not, OBL, his followers and many Muslims see all of SA as Mecca....not just the city. Link? I think you're making stuff up. "For this and other acts of aggression and injustice, we have declared jihad against the US, because in our religion it is our duty to make jihad so that God's word is the one exalted to the heights and so that we drive the Americans away from all Muslim countries. As for what you asked whether jihad is directed against US soldiers, the civilians in the land of the Two Holy Places [Saudi Arabia, Mecca and Medina] or against the civilians in America, we have focused our declaration on striking at the soldiers in the country of The Two Holy Places. The country of the Two Holy Places has in our religion a peculiarity of its own over the other Muslim countries. In our religion, it is not permissible for any non-Muslim to stay in our country." justresponse.net "Bin Laden and his followers were shocked and outraged when the U.S. and the Saudis rejected their offer to fight Iraq. Their anger grew when 500,000 U.S. and allied troops were deployed on Saudi soil. They saw this as “infidels” defiling holy territory." zmagsite.zmag.org In addition, bin Laden has referred to SA as the qibla of Muslims.Muslims are required, if able, to visit Mecca once during their life. It's one of the 5 pillars (5 commandments, if you will) of Islam. It's my understanding the OBL would rather not even recognize the nation-state of SA and would like all Muslims to live together in one huge geographical region from Africa to Asia under one califate. In that idealized context, where the heck is Mecca, if not in the present day city of Mecca? I recognize that Mecca is a city. All I am saying is that bin Laden and other Muslims see all of SA as holy.......like Mecca is holy. Therefore, putting airbases on Saudi soil offends them. And I did say he liked the House of Saud......just the land it sits on.First, the Saudi dictatorship is hardly in favor........its robbing the country blind. Where's the proof that the average Saudi dislikes the government? And as I said earlier, they can't rob blind what is 100% theirs in the current ownership structure. Yeah, the Saud family. Anyone outside the family does not benefit.........they are poor. You think it makes them happy when these see the House of Saud traveling around in Bentleys while they live in hovels? I don't think so.Secondly, the idea that Saddam was planning to invade Saudi Arabia is interesting science fiction but that's all it is. You're kidding right? Iran is East of Iraq. Kuwait is next as the clock turns. After Kuwait, Saudi Arabia. What more proof do you need? Show me a link. I think that's something out of your imagination. He attacked Kuwait because at one time, Kuwait was part of Iraq and he saw it as a re-annexation move. However, he knew the US would object if he invaded SA. For ten long years, the US had been his benefactor. Therefore, its not logical that he would bite the hand that feeds him.