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To: Noel de Leon who wrote (181762)	2/14/2006 3:51:30 PM
From: faqsnlojiks	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

If you're shooting at ducks at 60yds with #4 (lead) 12ga...you're taking too long of a shot, and you would be very lucky to hit it with 2 pellets. 6-10 pellets? Not. And at 60yds, it's not likely you would get a clean kill. More like a broken wing or golden BB (head shot). In California, you can use shot size up to "T" shot. Larger than BB, not as large as Buck Shot. Typically, I won't even take a shot at a goose at a range of more than 30 yds. And I shoot 3" #2 Hevi Shot (12 ga). (heavier than lead, but non-toxic) It's considered "unethical" to take a shot at greater than 40yds. Tell your friends that. This is especially true when goose hunting. You can hit a goose at 60yds powerfully enough to wound it, but likely the goose will sail for quite a way (out of your sight) before coming down, and then die suffering in the middle of a pond. Either that, or you're feeding the coyote's.

To: Noel de Leon who wrote (181762)	2/14/2006 4:32:35 PM
From: Ish	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

<<Didn't realize that lead BBs were still legal.>> They were back in 1985. No steel shot back then. A friend of mine passed on in Havana, Illinois last year, Dr. Frank Bellrose. He was the guy who invented the wood duck house that brought the specie back from endangered to abundant. He also hiked the back waters of the Illinois River and picked up dead ducks. Set up an x-ray machine in his basement and found when ducks ate lead shot as grit, the gizzards ground it up and poisoned the ducks. He's the reason lead shot is a no no around water. That research almost killed him. Had a lead shield but didn't know the x-rays would bounce off the concrete walls and nail him from behind. Cost him 3 months in the hospital.