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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (181857)	2/15/2006 1:31:53 PM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Speaking of honor; where is the honor in doing everything you can to take the voting rights away from members of the military serving overseas? I have yet to see Al Gore or anyone in the Democrat party apologize for that! And I have yet to see any liberals on this thread criticize the party or candidate who performed the disgusting act.

To: cnyndwllr who wrote (181857)	2/15/2006 1:35:51 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"He let his friends blame the victim." Yeah, I heard that disgusting sound bite repeated over and over on a talk show. One person was trying to get at the details of the event and the left wing pundit kept yelling over her that she was blaming the victim. For the sake of clarity, the phrase 'blame the victim' was popularized to point out that a victims of deliberate assault should not be blamed for the decisions of their assailants. In accidents Ed, it is often completely the fault of the injured person or as a result of their contributions to the situation. In this situation there is an injured person who is the suffering a gun shot wound and his friend who is probably suffering from deep loss and regret for having fired the shot. I have not read one credible account that says it was anything but a very unfortunate ACCIDENT Ed. But you feel free to feed on their suffering all you want. You obviously believe you should get something from Chenney on top of the suffering and loss he is already experiencing. Right on Ed, HE OWES it to YOU. >Sarcasm< "Where's the "honor" in that? Ed I am beginning to think you are not sincerely concerned with whether or not people behave honorably. "Now that the press is not letting go, however, he'll have to." Wow. That sounds like a 'gotcha'. So you are rooting for the media frenzie to kick the crap out of the republicans, who are suffering deeply from a very personal tragedy that is none of our business, right?

To: cnyndwllr who wrote (181857)	2/15/2006 2:01:03 PM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 281500

This is not a matter of honor Ed as much as it is a matter of political competence. What would have produced a few snickers and disappeared off the news now becomes a cause celebre for liberals at the veeps expense. And truth be told, he deserves it. He is a political fuck up. The rest of it is a typical hunting accident with our without the booze. After 9/11 i believed we need the sturdy old white guys but little did i realize how quickly these sowgs turn into senile old men or worse yet fools. Like rummy and browny, thats where cheney descended. If he was Secy of something he would be asked to resign, not for the poor shooting but for the poor political management.