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To: Nevada9999 who wrote (6639)	2/16/2006 2:34:27 AM
From: Proud Deplorable	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 78421

Interesting comments. Its very hard not to root for the overthrow of our sick society. I'm not a religious person whatsoever, believing that religion is the cause of the worlds problems, but if I were I would never pick a disgusting western religion like the ones prevalent in N America and Europe that tolerates the criminal behaviour of the majority of citizens these days (before contesting this statement give it some serious thought) why they are no better than what they claim they are preaching against. When I sit back and see the fanatics of Islam railing against the west I just calmly say to meslf...'I'm not at all surprised or upset, I will just continue to buy gold as my counterculture statement and non confidence vote in our system'. To me gold is not so much an investment as a way not to hold the filthy currencies of the perpetrators of inhumanity. Hmmmm I would also never consider owning American Gold Eagles. Listen: abc.net.au YOU MUST NOT VIEW THIS IF YOU ARE UNDER 18 AND BELIEVE WHAT YOUR PARENTS TELL YOU ABOUT HOW GREAT AMERICA IS AND THE SOLDIERS THAT REPRESENT IT uruknet.info LOL usatoday.com I wonder why Charlatan Heston hasn't commented on this

To: Nevada9999 who wrote (6639)	2/16/2006 8:50:13 AM
From: loantech	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 78421

Guy in high school must have been a good shot to shoot a bird on the fly with a 22 r. Pretty hard to do unless maybe a Pheasant which is quite fast but a larger bird none the less.

To: Nevada9999 who wrote (6639)	2/16/2006 8:58:04 AM
From: silvertoad	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 78421

excellent post! btw - many saguaros around tucson have been used for target practice... irresistable targets to desert lads i suppose, sad to see. in the east kids shoot signs.

To: Nevada9999 who wrote (6639)	2/16/2006 11:24:32 AM
From: E. Charters	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 78421

Quail hunting accidents are routine as it is a close shot bird that is very fast on the rise and in speed. It generally flushes at a low angle close to ground, so you have to shoot close to ground and quickly. Coveys are all over the place and parties often get confused who are hunting an area as to where the other party is. US hunting accidents and fatalities outnumber CDN by a large factor. This is because American gun handling is much less stringently taught and much more careless. Many CDN's refuse to hunt with US hunters because they don't seem to care which way the barrel points. You can always tell a CDN hunter by the way in which he treats the ordinary direction of the barrel and what he is shooting at with great meticulousness. CDN hunting safety courses are very basic and stringent. I have observed this about US hunters and heard it from other hunters frequently. If I ever see the barrel of a gun pass in my direction from another hunter's control, I stop hunting with that person immediately and retire from the field. No exceptions. I would advise the US administration and the States to revise and overhaul their hunting laws and gun safety regulations in general and to train their military in a better manner, similar to the CDN military training which seens to have ingrained the better practices of CDN's in the population at large. Vis a vis the political situation, yes, they seem eager to find fault. It is not the responsibility of the Veep to sound off on every incident to satisfy the standards of the newshounds. The issue of the condition of the victim was not addressed but may be significant as to what to announce and whether it would aggravate the situation and his condition if he did. EC<:-}

To: Nevada9999 who wrote (6639)	2/16/2006 12:17:02 PM
From: LLCF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 78421

<<Then one Monday morning I learned that one of them had turned following a bird and fatally shot his best friend through the heart with a 22lr at short range. It was a few days before he was in class at all. Not a friend of mine, but I still remember a brief eye contact with him that day. Mournful and tormented don't begin to define it. Had it mattered, I can confidently say he was incapable of doing an interview with the media even at that point.>> <Now that a high profile accidental shooting has occurred, the prime story is that Geraldo Rivera was not contacted instantaneously.>> The story of how the story was released is now the story... and the story itself has become a judgement on Cheney as a person. For instance Someone mentioned "Cheney having a drink after shooting a guy," Or 'getting sloshed', or comparing it to something much more severe than an accident: Message 22173719 The potential contextual formulations possible in a 'reinactment" of the incident and aftermath are mindboggling. The way our mind works, each and every one of us has his own picture in his/her mind!!! Our reality of that situation is RADICALLY SUBJECTIVE, and NOT THE TRUTH: The ultimate truth is only available to the experiencer at that moment. The only way to truley understand Cheney, is to BE CHENEY. That is the real meaning behind "leave judgement to me sayeth the lord"... understanding that what you don't experience can't possibly be the whole truth... that realization is the substrate of compassion. The ramifications of not being aware that the pictures we conjur up are not reality, lack current context, and in fact are partly based on previous belief, is profound. Of course most media isn't interested in context, truth, compassion [In fact CONTEXT would result in most viewers going outside for a walk and getting exercise no doubt]. I'm NOT blaming the media (it's probably simply and example of our society), BUT there is no way to get anywhere near the truth without context... and everyone knows the way media works (TV, magazines, whatever) is the 'sound bite'... so really how much truth can there be? What can you do?? Stop paying attention. LOL <Political spin is king in America and this country is toast until calm rational thought reappears.> EXACTLY!! DAK