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To: carranza2 who wrote (12293)	2/16/2006 3:46:52 PM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541342

I agree with John's point of fact that we don't have accounts from non-Bush sources about FISA's efficacy. It might put the Bush crowd in a bad light to say so, but the fact stands on its own unless you can shed more light with other accounts. As for not going to Congress because they would weaken FISA, they wouldn't dare in the current climate. They just want to have their role acknowledged in the process. Suppose they write a bad new FISA bill and Bush vetoes it ahead of the midterm elections - major political damage. Bush should take up Pat Leahy on his offer to get a FISA system that works just the way Bush wants it to. Of course, he should have done that four years ago so I don't hold out much hope now. It is just not his style.

To: carranza2 who wrote (12293)	2/16/2006 7:23:48 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541342

c2, I would love to take what people write/say at face value but I know one cannot do that with Toensing and her husband. And the Bush administration has simply raised the bar for public deception. However, I think there is more at stake. To some degree, this is the behavior of any set of pols in power (there are exceptions but they are few and far between--I once, much to my everlasting regret, voted against one of them). One must have independent corroboration for what they and their surrogates put out in public. And it's something that has grown worse over the last three or four decades. Customarily, we have two "supervisors" for such, Congress held by a different party and the fourth estate. Neither are functioning at the moment.