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To: Noel de Leon who wrote (182091)	2/18/2006 12:00:02 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

<Here is the time line: Muslims come to Denmark in increasing numbers from 1968-1973.> That was the first mistake. They should have been left where they were. <General immigration to Denmark stopped, 1973> Good call. <Increasing numbers of Muslims come to Denmark as refugees and reunited families. 1973-2000> Big blunder. The families should have been reunited where the Moslems could be happy, in, say, Mecca or one of those happy Islamic Jihad countries such as Talebanstan. The Moslems in, say Indonesia, should have taken in the refugees. Anyway, how come there are refugees from Happy Talebanland? <Increasing demonization of Muslims.1980-present.> Infidels should smile while they get threatened, knifed, bombed and robbed, they should not complain about Moslem mania. <Little or no real integration. 1973-present> Moslems want to take over, not become like regular Danes. Of course they don't integrate. Arrogant Danes, like arrogant Kiwis, mistakenly think that the grateful immigrants will become like them. Of course they don't. The English who came to NZ 130 years ago didn't turn into Maoris. They changed the place to how they were. I prefer a nice cup of tea to some puha. <Dansk Folkeparti increasingly expresses racist attitudes towards Muslims.> It's not racist to have contempt for religion. It's sensible. Have you read what religious people write? Let alone what they say. Racism means against a particular variety of DNA, such as melanin-rich skin, or straight hair, or shortness, or tallness. Islamic madness isn't genetic. There are Moslems with all sorts of DNA, albeit mostly equatorial. In the temperate climates, the brain fever cools down and people adopt more sensible norms. They don't go around wanting to kill anyone who disagrees with them. Look at the hatred of Jews by Moslems. I think it's the religion that they hate and Jews who are Islamic are probably accepted as regular blokes. "Jew" is used to describe genes and religion, so it's an ambiguous word. Moslem only means religious. So one can't be racist against Moslems, or Christians. I would want to have all Moslems out too. Go back where they belong, which is close to Mecca or among their Islamic buddies where they can share their superstitious beliefs. Unfortunately, with immigration now decades old, as with Jews in Israel, there is nowhere for them to go back to. Danish Moslems are generations old, so the problem of Islamic mania is entrenched in Denmark and many other countries. Enoch Powell had it right. It might be that Danes will adopt similar measures to those of the Taleban and more enthusiastic Moslems, and attack anyone in their country who isn't correct in their beliefs. Take Moslems to the stadium just as the Taleban did, and sort the problem out. <Denmark laws on immigrants considered to be Europe's strictest. for example Danes who are under 24 and marry a foreigner may not, in most cases, bring their spouse to Denmark.> That's something sensible. New Zealand is doing much the same. Plenty of such marriages are shams for cash to get past immigration laws. Some are simply cons of the dopey person who married somebody who was using them. Danes who marry a foreigner could go and live with the foreigner. The daughter of some friends of ours married a Dane and went to live in Denmark. She decided he was not what she thought and came back to NZ, so some foreigners can obviously go and live there. That was 3 or 4 years ago, so maybe the rules have changed. Citizenships should be sold to the highest bidders, not given away to some murderous "refugees" such as the criminals NZ brings in by the hundred. <Jyllands Posten publishes Cartoons, sept. 30 2005 Reason: to teach Muslims that Danes can insult Islam(their remark).> I saw the cartoons and they didn't insult Islam, they criticized violent Islamic Jihad fundamentalists who use their purported Moslem beliefs as an excuse to bomb and otherwise attack other people. Moslems didn't "get it" and hilariously, proved the thesis of the cartoons by their violent reactions. Koranic writings I've seen do in fact encourage attack on infidels, apostates etc, so to point out what somebody thinks is hardly a criticism. <Protests by various Danish Muslim organizations. Oct-Nov. 2005. 11 ambassadors write to prime minister for a meeting. Rejected by prime minister. Jan 2006. Danish imams complain to Egypt's foreign office. Jan 2005 Egyptian foreign office sends the cartoons to various sources for publication(latest news). > Moslems went nuts, as they do. Killing, burning, smashing. Hiding bombs in their turbans. Like the cartoon said. Islam is violence. They are in good company. Christians used to be enthusiastic burners at the stake, and the Catholics held inquisitions, Jews were fair game. It's the religious mindset combined with megalomania. They like to kill opposition. Religious mania should be banned, not cartoons. Have you ever tried reasoning with religious people? They deliberately turn their brain off and hand it over to somebody else who tells them what to think. It avoids the need for them to think. They become Zombies. They just say "It's in the Bible, or in the Koran", or "Osama told me to do it." That's like saying "It's in the New York Times" as though that makes it true. Mqurice