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To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (4516)	2/25/2006 7:43:40 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 218632

so i am to understand even oil sands run full blast there will not be enough, that the investment dollars will be focused, so that my oil sands hedge for the coconut will work better than planned?! wonderful bad news ;0) i believe energy solution will come out of china or india, not from religious fundamentalist countries anywhere. science, nothing quite like it when it works

To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (4516)	2/26/2006 8:28:43 AM
From: Crabbe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 218632

"If the US public is determined to get less dependent on oil, they can achieve much of this by converting to ethanol, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT PAY, FINANCIALLY. World wide, with 6.5 billion mouths to feed, it's a real question how much corn/sugar cane etc. can be grown for fuel use." You would be right were ethanol production limited to sugar and grain feedstock. Even Brazil is having trouble producing enough ethanol for their own use and have started their harvest of sugar cane 2 months early this year. They also have reduced their gasohol concentration of ethanol from 25% to 20% ethanol. However I think it is your country men that are predicting biomass ethanol for 30-40 cents a gallon. Check out Iogen. With feedstock prices of ~$30 per ton, 214 gallons of ethanol / ton, enzyme cost for conversion to sugar from cellulosic biomass of $.05 per gallon. Biomass from agricultural waste products such as corn stover and straw. Or, biomass from crops such as switch grass that can be grown on marginal land with no irrigation, and do not require plowing or cultivating for at least 10 years after planting. I think those claims would kinda negate your argument. r