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To: JohnM who wrote (13869)	3/4/2006 10:21:18 PM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 541428

It's about either the fascinating hold they have on the anger of some folk and/or attempts to defeat Hillary should she decide on a presidential run. We should at least be clear what this is about. It's terrific to see you finally grind down to an elemental level, a place closer to political reality. But that is not "what this is about", unfortunately. But you got close, very close. If you want to get to what it's about, the question to ask, a fascinating one I cannot answer to my satisfaction, is why do the Clintons excite such negative passions. The psychodynamics behind this "fascinating hold", if you will. I think part of the answer is that they both carry the whiff of corruption for which they have not paid or for which they have not been exonerated. I know you are aware of the numerous examples so I won't repeat them, and I hope you'll agree that these numerous examples are, at worst positively indicative of corruption and, at best, deeply suspicious. Because of this, they will be pilloried for anything controversial that either do. In order to win the Presidency again, Hillary and Bill therefore need to be cleaner than Caesar's wife. This is utterly elementary, but they don't seem to fully get it. Interestingly, they have reversed roles now, with Bill assuming the role of a political negative that she filled during his Presidency. The question is whether they can act with exacting pulchritude during the next two years so as to give Hillary a fighting chance to be elected. Bill's famous lack of discipline militates against this, and the Dubai example is but the latest iteration of this [I assume they are working broadly together to get her elected, a not unreasonable assumption.] I think she lacks the political skills and intuition to play the political game as brilliantly as he did, and therefore may slip before it is all over. She'll get a lot help. My most educated guess, FWIW, is that she is not going to be elected.