To: RetiredNow who wrote (278770 ) 3/7/2006 10:07:54 AM From: Alighieri Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571732 Their response to our concerns about Iraq was exactly what pushed us to the invasion in the first place. If they had stood with us in pressuring Iraq and providing a unified front, perhaps Saddam would have backed down and perhaps we wouldn't have had to invade to find out that there were no WMDs. 50 years from now, when historians write about this, you still probably won't get it. France and Germany knew very clearly that bush was going in there regardless of what saddam did and they refused to be pawns of bush's policy for (NOW to you) obvious reasons. Saddam HAD backed down. WMDs were just the excuse. “For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction (as justification for invading Iraq) because it was the one reason everyone could agree on.” ~ Paul Wolfowitz, Vanity Fair Interview, 2003-05-28 America was duped by these guys...so don't be a dope and expect France and Germany to be dopes along with you... You know, there are just so many mistakes Bush has made over the last few years that I simply exhaust myself to think about them. We can agree on one thing, even if we get there differently. Look, people on the right in this country feel a deep and misguided sense of international superiority, a level of entitlement they deny their less fortunate countrymen on social issues. Can you smell the hypocrisy and the problem? Until a solid and sustained majority of Americans learn that to treat other nations of the world as equal partners towards the solution of geo political problems is a key national interest, they will vote for politicians whose policies will make the US the subject of detestation and, yes, terror...and billions in military spending will make no difference at all. Al