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To: eracer who wrote (189095)	3/8/2006 5:40:09 PM
From: AK2004	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 275872

re: FX-60 with better video card and lower resolution: 90.4 FPS THG 3.6GHz P4 with worse video card and higher resolution: 136.7 FPS cool that would be about the right ratio as measured between conroe and fx-60. I guessed you just proved that conroe is no better than p4, right? I have to disagree with you - conroe maybe a little better than p4 :-))

To: eracer who wrote (189095)	3/8/2006 6:47:02 PM
From: pgerassi	Respond to of 275872

Eracer: Did you note this sentence in the Tech Report review, "We tested F.E.A.R. by manually playing through a specific point in the game five times for each CPU while recording frame rates using the FRAPS utility." Running in the game with real stuff being computed on the fly is far harder than running a "demo" script. The latter just renders while the former has to do AI, do physics, figure collisions, get user input and play audio while also rendering. Of course average frame rates are slower. But it is far more real than doing a standard "demo" script. A game may demo fine on a machine yet stutter or run like a snail when playing for real. And I proved that the memory was not running at DDR-400 2-2-2-5/1T by using other third party tests and the Hexus.net results. More like DDR-400 3-3-3-10/2T. So the BIOS troubles are now verified that they actually affect memory performance of FX-60s. Because of the IMC, K8 MBs have little effect except on memory timing settings and overclockability. Memory speeds are highly independent of MB and chipset since most tests on quality MBs are within 1% of each other. Thus calling into question all of the other benchmarks except for PCMark 2005 CPU test. Pete