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To: Petz who wrote (189568)	3/13/2006 7:38:40 PM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Petz, re: Intel Pentium D 805 Smithfield 533MHz FSB LGA 775 Dual Core, EM64T Processor Model BX80551PE2666FN - Retail $134 This is the kind of price slashing I expect Intel to do. Not everything, but extremely targeted. They know AMD doesn't have enough capacity to sell dual-core chips at $134, so they are packaging a couple of otherwise-unsellable Prescott die into a single package. I wonder how many people realize that with a processor like that, you get a single thread performance (most of apps out ther) equivalent of what was available 4 years ago. Some people who fall for this may in effect be downgrading as opposed to upgrading their PCs with that CPU. Joe

To: Petz who wrote (189568)	3/13/2006 11:00:10 PM
From: Sarmad Y. Hermiz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Petz (and eracer), I don't know how much relavence to place in the various "speed bins" or gaming benchmarks. Instead I am trying to figure out in practical terms, how do AMD amd Intel processors compare in practical applications. A reasonably demanding (and standard) application is a media center PC. H-P offers both Intel and AMD media centers, with otherwise identical equipment. Intel shopping.hp.com AMD shopping.hp.com with low end CPU's $1269 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 517 w/HT Technology, 2.9GHz AMD Athlon(TM) 64 3400+ (2.2GHz / 512KB L2 cache) -------- with high end CPU's $1400 (3 upgrade steps higher) Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 641 w/HT Technology, 3.2GHz AMD Athlon(TM) 64 X2 3800+ dual-core - 2.0GHz ----------------- It seems that for purpose of media center pc, that H-P considers a P4 2.9 GHz w/HT equal to an Athlon 64 3400+ And a P4 3.2 GHz w/HT equal to Athlon 64 X2 3800+ --------------- Checking processor prices at TigerDirect, a P4 517 costs $130, an Athlon 3200 costs $193. tigerdirect.com And on the high end Intel P4 641 costs $290. Athlon X2 3800 costs $329. --------------- So really, I don't see why the idea that AMD processors cost less than Intel keeps getting repeated. If H-P could use a cheaper AMD processor to do the job of a more expensive Intel processor, they would have. Thanks for your input. Sarmad