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To: QwikSand who wrote (11631)	3/25/2006 5:21:48 AM
From: Don Green	Respond to of 19790

O.T. The underlying question of why so many of today's top US students think the meaning of life is to be found at Goldman Sachs I have had a a close and longterm relationship with Goldman Sachs and I can honestly tell you Goldman Sachs is one of the best run, best paying and best places to work let alone one of the most profitable per worker companies in the world. To be able to work for GS is almost an honor, which those who know well, like competitors or those have worked there in the past would quickly tell you. Lots of brain power there. In recent years lots of the old gang have moved into public spotlight, Like Treas Sec., NYSE. NJ state govt. etc. Subject 26737 Don

To: QwikSand who wrote (11631)	3/25/2006 11:52:04 AM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 19790

today's top US students think the meaning of life is to be found at Goldman Sachs or Davis Polk rather than in some anonymous lab laboriously digging out the knowledge that might actually help save the species, or maintain our country's innovative edge, True, but this happened recently post-2000. Because engineering is now a sweatshop due to globalization and it was not in the 90s. In 1992, US engineering schools were full. If you asked anyone in the 90s which country had the technological leading edge, everyone would have said USA. I come from the e-commerce side but imho the great 90s "inventions/companies" were dell,amazon etc. and virtually NONE of these originated with offshore development teams. Only later, when all of these "cost cutting" moves were implemented, and supportive groups like QA which are still necessary were shipped to kingdom come, did these companies "lose it" in terms of being able to ship product. As the architects watched all their buddies get "offshored", they realized this career is a dead end, and quit. Today we have a whole SLEW of companies that can't get good products out the door, all at once. Dell, MSFT, Intc. And the same supporters of this are trying to claim it has nothing to do with offshore R&D, when any buffoon can see it must be that. As you can see I am not the lone voice in this, I agree with Mike Da Bear. And I WAS an engineer at Dell, so I should know.