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To: koan who wrote (8514)	3/28/2006 10:01:00 PM
From: LLCF	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 78412

<DAK, many beleive it was the gay issue that lost Ohio for Kerry. His advisors told him to renounce gay marriage, but he said no he would not do that. Bush and rove beat the drum on it. Most americans are agaisnt it. That whole trip was engineered by rove to box the liberals in a corner. Louisiana voted 80% agaisnt gay marriage.> So? What the "anti-religion" crowd fails to recognize is that "Marriage" is of the Church. THEY made it up! The Catholic Church is ALL FOR gay partnerships with equal state rights... retirement benefits, health benefits, etc. They just don't like the state using a church concept. It's the most misunderstood issue on the part of the 'anti-religion' crowd. <To me gay marriage is exactly like segragation with people being against the same as racists. > As you see from the above, that viewpoint actually lacks any truth at all!!!!!!!! IT's amazing the lack of understanding. It's the word "marriage" that is the entire sticking point. The Catholic Church as NO PROBLEM with same sex partnerships (they think it's a sin, but since everyone sins every day, this is not a big deal) getting state rights and funding!!!! <The reason the liberal dems cannot find a voice is becasue so many of us are not very religous, or athiests and I do nto know one liberal friend agaisnt gay marriage.> aMore likely because they dont' understand what they're talking about on this issue. They DONT look into it... they just "assume" that the word "Marriage" is a generic word that they own. <And athiest cannot be elected dog catcher.> Well, that's HIS problem... imagine someone asserting that "there is not god"!!!!!!!! Imagine, it's the same (scientifically) as someone claiming there IS a god> There is no proof, and his position is completely egotistical. Now, agnostic, that's different. <So how do top dems get elected if they are not religous. And the republicans are making that the litmus test of a good person.> Well, I just don't see that AT ALL! Look at congress and the Senate. In fact look at the presidency! Bush is the first "religionist" in ages! <FAITH which equals ignorance. No facts!> Sorry, but that doesn't wash. There are zillions of scientists that are convinced in a power greater than themselves. Most think religion has it wrong, but even the most cutting edge physics is unclear as to what the substrate of the universe is all about. <The latino vote will decide future elections and they are heavily catholic. > Believe me... you DONT have to worry about Catholics... worry about the born agains. <The only way liberals can win elections is either to have one of the few which is religious or they have to lie.> Completely wrong. Look at the congress and senate... look at Clinton, Bush senior, Regan, Carter, blah blah.. <I would call that a religous war.> I call that panic. DAK