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To: neolib who wrote (184253)3/29/2006 12:58:07 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I'd place the stress on discredited. Look at communism. Change from within is more effective than change imposed from outside.

But communism was only discredited after 70+ years of conflict, with millions of people dying, and hundreds of millions more suffering under it during that time.

Is this what we're willing to wait for, a new cold/limited war with Islamo-Fascism, until such a time that their religious leaders are no longer able to brain-washed the masses of youthful Muslims looking for a vision of their future?

The entire thought of this, to be frank, frightens me... And it should frighten everyone.

Thus, my view, no matter how controversial, is to immediately recognize it for the threat that Islamo-Fascism holds to freedom and international order, and confront it where ever it seems to be making advances.

Hawk



To: neolib who wrote (184253)3/29/2006 1:37:30 PM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Guys like Teng and Chou En Lai changed the face of chinese communism virtually overnight. Mao was as crazy as bin laden in many ways. Can al quaeda ever change its stripes? Can wahabi type orthodoxy metastisize into something that resembles modern? On the face of it, it seems doubtful.
One other comment--we all lump the taliban regime with al quaeda. We assume that the taliban would be a model for al quaeda run states. But something says to me that bin laden is too modern a man to view the taliban as a model. I think he used the crazed afgan version of an islamic state for his own purposes but would he support the same model for Saudi Arabia????