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To: epicure who wrote (784)3/29/2006 8:44:28 AM
From: Bill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 14758
 
I agree with the reasons for going into Iraq. But I believe our mission there has been accomplished and it is time to begin troop redeployment or withdrawal.

On the rationale, people don't seem to talk much about this:

iraqwatch.org
Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 - Declares that it should be the policy of the United States to seek to remove the Saddam Hussein regime from power in Iraq and to replace it with a democratic government.



To: epicure who wrote (784)3/29/2006 9:20:01 AM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 14758
 
"I think the news accurately reflects what is really important right now in Iraq."

Look we agree on something. No doubt there is good news but also there is no doubt that in certain areas there is little law and order as we know it. If New Yorkers were dying in the numbers as bagdadians from car bombings, truck bombings, ieds etc and folks were being beheaded as a matter of course, the US army would long ago have interceded and martial law would be declared. Of course, the Mayor of NY could preside over a new water treatement plant during this period but what is really news is the question. There is hysteria about MSM in right wing circles. They should look more to idiots like hannity, rush, levin, savage and the other empty headed talk show propagandists. MSM is far from perfect but i am essentially a conservative who manages to read the NYT ever day and only gets a bit apoplectic at a few op ed writers or an occasional fluff story with an apparent bias. The news at the times is for the most part still fit to print.



To: epicure who wrote (784)3/29/2006 11:37:25 AM
From: Peter Dierks  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 14758
 
"Whatever good they are doing in Iraq, though, it doesn't make me any more comfortable with our invasion- with the reasons for it, with the destabilization of the region, and with the likely results in terms of the government of Iraq, and in terms of the sectarian problems that seem to be in a downward spiral."

What do you perceive the reasons for the liberation of Iraq to be?

Destabilization is an interesting choice of words. It is destabilizing the tyrannical dictatorships. Are you implying that tyranny is good, or merely assuming that tyranny will be replaced by something worse?

"in terms of the sectarian problems that seem to be in a downward spiral."

Based on all measures the downward spiral seems to be a downwards spiral for the terrorists. Iraq has been a terrorist bug zapper, and a great number of the foreign terrorists seem to have been zapped already.

We worked with Iraqis to clean out Fallujah, and it has not since descended into the terrorist anarchy that it had been. We cleaned out Mosul after the survivors from Fallujah regrouped there. Many of them did not survive that encounter, and most of those that remained regrouped along the Syrian Border. We cleaned out that region, and it has been much calmer since.

Everywhere we have worked with the Iraqis to unseat the terrorists has remained a much more peaceful place since the effort.

People who have a vested interest in the failure of Iraq criticize the time line of democracy. For perspective, how long did it take to ratify the US Constitution, and Bill of Rights?